Game On Again
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See! Like you even ******* know what car im talking about! Your wrong.. I am talking about "cmeskoot"s car from Tennesee and also the son of the owner of Tasca Mazda, Rhode Islands car.. oh but of course, i FORGOT! they dont have PG fuel pumps so no way that is correct..:flip:
The instant someone says they have more than an intake everyone jumps on them mouthing off about how they need a fuel pump and that the car wont work without it or make power past 6k without it... that the fuel pump is the single only mod that will allow these cars to work and that there is no way our cars could possibly make power or be quicker without one
Show me some facts. I want to see on paper, with a dyno graph, flow charts, detonation, the works.. What does PG say about it.. derr it flows 52% better.. omgzz it flows better, i could ******* tell you that, show me some data that it WORKS and does SOMETIHNG other than "flow more when needed."
OH god i dont use dynos they dont work...(blah)(blah) Ok then. Go to the track with the fuel pump. Do 4 runs on the same day with the same conditions and same driver. 2 with the pump and 2 without. IF it does show a improvement you are on the way..
No one has said what the pump does to our cars.. ohh it letss me shift at 6200rpm.. ok why, give me some info other than, you need this or your car cant be faster than mine.
And im not at all afriad to say what i typed to any of you in person.. what are you going to do, kick my ass because i said you havent showed any solid evidence and that I believe everyone is brainwashed off their fuel pump end all be all pipe dream.
Why dont you get off the forum and get a car with a pump on it on the dyno and datalog it some so we can see what this thing actually fricken does or answer some of the emails you dont return or the contact notes on your site.. (blah)
fake edit: oh yea i forgot to get on my knees for the pg pump in typical 247 fashion in every post (bow)
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what data! you havent even shown any! Just a new timeslip! (drunk) (chair)
you keep on MISUNDERSTANDING SOMETHING.
I make no money off this pump, im not here to sell it to any1. I posed my results, my data and i posted track times that were done on different days with very similar conditions.
Quote me where i said u need the pump after an intake. According to MY car you need this pump after i/tbe on the stock boost if its under 40 degrees outside.(smash)
I make no money off this pump, im not here to sell it to any1. I posed my results, my data and i posted track times that were done on different days with very similar conditions.
Quote me where i said u need the pump after an intake. According to MY car you need this pump after i/tbe on the stock boost if its under 40 degrees outside.(smash)
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um serach my posts newb. I posted many charts of fuel pressure and throttle. Stock pump vs new pump.
um serach my posts newb. I posted many charts of fuel pressure and throttle. Stock pump vs new pump.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123689668&highlight=fuel+pump
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laloosh has already datalogged what his pump did to his car with the standback. between that and his timeslips, i am not sure what you don't like about it. as for him not liking or trashing the standback, i've used it personally and have had good luck with it. i do not think its a waste of money but thats my opinion.
i'll be the first to admit in the past i don't always get back to people lightning fast, which stunk. i answer all emails, IMs, PMs and phone calls during business hours. i can post JPGs of my outlook and webmail windows showing return receipts. my hours are posted for people to read. it states what my hours are on my voice mail. if people expect a response within 24 hours on a saturday or sunday or after business hours on a friday and they don't get one they are a victim of thier own inability to read. if they choose one avenue of getting a hold of me, give up and then cry about it on a forum then that is their prerogative. it has nothing to to do with the fuel pump anyways, but since you are only interested in attacking people it doesn't surprise me that you'd so easily deviate from one losing argument to another. i said a few posts back and you not-so-eloquently proved, there are always going to be people who don't like me and have an axe to grind.
your prerogative is to simply attack people in whatever fashion suits your need at that particular moment. it is typical forum lemming rubbish and nothing revolutionary or revealing.
if i am not mistaken, cp-e's pump received a fair bit of worship on the 'other forums'. in the end we are not even manufacturing our own because the drama isn't worth it. we'll give equal shelf space to cp-e, mrlilguy and whomever else comes to market.
as for your "edit": if you don't like it on 24-7, no one is tying your hands to the keyboard except yourself.
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mrlilguy157
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yay for more drama 
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.kingpinMS3
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it's not drama, it's just someone forming a new beach in their vag.yay for more drama
mrlilguy157
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haha
Powerslave
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yeah capt, everytime i call over there you are always helpful and polite and you always awnser the phone. your prices are LOWER than what the manufacturer sells for. Your a good business man I think you and cp-e really trie hard to help people out and gice good aftermaket parts etc. no matter what you do and how hard you try there will always be people will give a hard time...lol
PPPPFFFFFFFHhhhh, thats y u got the fast car, make up for whats missing lol j/k
lol(rofl2)(hah)
JumpingJackson
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This thread is *so* going to be closed. LOL.
There is something to be said for scientific method when testing new mods.
Yes Laloosh has a fast car and its pretty probable that the pump has something to do with it. But no one has shown conclusive data of before and after effects of the mod with reasonable precaution to remove other variables that would effect the results. (specifically: same track/dyno, same day, running the same amount of boost on all of the runs, a full dashhawk / standback log of before and after).
By doing this you can remove all doubt as to the validity of your data/test results and no one can say anything about it. Facts cant be disputed. Im literally waiting with money sitting in my bank account to upgrade my CDFP. I just want some more results. (spin)
There is something to be said for scientific method when testing new mods.
Yes Laloosh has a fast car and its pretty probable that the pump has something to do with it. But no one has shown conclusive data of before and after effects of the mod with reasonable precaution to remove other variables that would effect the results. (specifically: same track/dyno, same day, running the same amount of boost on all of the runs, a full dashhawk / standback log of before and after).
By doing this you can remove all doubt as to the validity of your data/test results and no one can say anything about it. Facts cant be disputed. Im literally waiting with money sitting in my bank account to upgrade my CDFP. I just want some more results. (spin)
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surprised it hasn't been closed already.
that said, i'd consider springing for the dyno runs or helping pay for them, regardless of the results.
mrlilguy157
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dang.... i could've sworn all of this stuff will be posted somewhere by next weekend
edit: Ken, you know I've got 2 hours locked away at the dyno this weekend right?
I'll have a dashhawk logging everything, videos of the dyno's, as stock of car as I can get to with stock pump, then with the modified pump. same as follows, except adding 1 mod at a time. intake, boost controller(at various pressure levels), meth injection too.if you wanna send me a TMIC to borrow for the weekend that'd be great too
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JumpingJackson
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Im damn excited to see those results too! ^-^ ^-^
JumpingJackson
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Hopefully the new dashhawk beta will be out by then with better scaling.
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