Forged internals!

[HiBoost TS]

Just a couple questions. You suggest a fuel management system, not a complete engine management to include timing. I know timing is key to preventing detonation, but is just getting the proper amount of fuel per psi of boost enough? You only suggest forged rods and not pistons. I know MSPs have had a lot of blown engines are the stock pistons really strong enough to handle that type of PSI with longevity? I know you know a lot more than me on this, and I would hate to waste unecessary money and would like your opinion.

I listed the mods that are required to run safely up to 12 psi for good HP. I have customers running up to 240 WHP on their P5 with the F10 on 93 octane. If you want real big HP, then the Engine Management for both fuel and timing is required. I listed just the rods and not pistons as they will stand up to 20 psi of boost. We are running 22 psi on stock pistons. I think that forged pistons are needed when you run real high boost or Nitrous systems.

Also 4 bigger injectors are a must beyond 12 psi of boost.

Juan

 

[jurgs01]

Thanks for the info.

 

[mspeedpro]

nice info

 

[cosmo420]

i eventually plan on a forged internal route myself =, by what i mean is that i plan on buying a junked out good FS motor and slowly build it while driving mine and when its ready ill look into the ecu issues do make it work i know its a long road ahead as well as $$$ but i will be thankful of my engine builder freind of mine by the time its all said and done, but as far as the tranny goes well its that it will go and not long there after so if there is any tranny builders by the means of an auto with a stall i would rather go with that setup if there isnt then we'll see what we can come up with and hopefully it will all work out

 

[z00mer]

If you also want to find more info on forged internals.....do a search on the Tri-point racing Proteges.

(jacked)

jurgs01- How's that DGM ram hood doing you? I was seriously thinking about getting that hood and making an actual functional system using the stock air box.

 

[Black Majik MSP]

DO NOT put underdrive pullies on your MSP. Do a search. You'll find detrimental results. Also try growing up a little bit. "Peddley" bolt ons are vital before you do any type of internal work, engine management, turbo upgrades etc. I do believe it was YOU who called bolt ons peddley to begin with, and gave the impression that you were planning on going Forged etc, and that bolt ons were a waste of time. If you seriously knew what you were talking about, you would know that "bolt ons" yield impressive gains on any FI car, mainly because bolt ons free up restrictions in the system, which is exponentially more beneficial for FI than NA. Seems that so many ricers like to put bolt ons on their NA honda civics, and are disappointed by the results, that it is now widely believed that bolt ons make no power. Go educate yourself, study the boards, and when you come back to this thread, you'll realize that this entire thread wasn't even necessary.

(mswerd) I don't think anyone can say it better than this. Try searching next time (aka doing the work yourself instead of being a dick & expecting other people to do it for you) or take a look at the modder's guide & other stickied threads (where people were nice enough to do the work for you anyway).