For those looking for Cam Gears

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

dude chill the **** out, this happens to be the first place i have seen these cam gears, and as far as a business is concerned if one person finds out something they didn't know then its worth it. and last time i checked forums are public, so basically im saying he can post whatever he damn well pelases and if u dont wanna read what he has to say dont read the post. its the simple.

 

[ND4MSP]

first time I've seen these also.

 

[MSP Chris]

theMAN For real man chill out. Not everyone is as smart as you are. By the way "bump".

 

[tonkabui]

what are cam gears and what do they do?

no, for reals, i'm being serious. how do they work?

 

[JDM Sam]

i dont remember anyone posting about these since ive been here.

 

[122 Vega]

You guys sound like you're getting cam timing and ignition timing confused. The cam gears will in no way remove any of the advanced ignition timing in the new flash. Two entirely different things. also, in regards to the nitrous, it is again ignition timing that causes detonation, not cam timing. Nitrous typically requires that the timing be retarded 2-3 degrees for each 50 hp jet.

What these gears offer is altered volumetric efficiency. The one factor that alters VE more than any other is the Intake Valve Close Degree. By altering this, you change overlap and therefore allow more or less air/fuel into the cylinder. The intake valve close also can create or remove intake runner reversion which saps power too.

In actuallity, you will likely see less of a gain on a turbo motor than you will on a N/A motor. That is because the F/I motor is already more efficient at filling the cylinders.

Britt

 

[Db1707]

Britt,

I think there is a significant gain to be had for the msp because it was originally tuned as an NA car. It runs slightly more overlap than needed. With a full turbo back I'm betting we'll see about 15 whp in certain places...

 

[122 Vega]

Originally tuned and forced induction are two different things. Cam timing should not have as large an effect on f/i. The cams are N/A grinds, however the IVC causes more change when the motor is relying on teh vacuum created by the downward moving piston to fill the cylinder.

I am interested in these, and I do think that there are gains to be found, but greater gains could be realized with cam grind development for the turbo application as opposed to the reindexed N/A grinds.

I am looking at a used set of these, maybe I'll put them on for a dyno day.

Britt

 

[LinuxRacr]

Moving to the performance section...

 

[70]

Britt,

I think there is a significant gain to be had for the msp because it was originally tuned as an NA car. It runs slightly more overlap than needed. With a full turbo back I'm betting we'll see about 15 whp in certain places...

The MSP was set up as a trubo car and tuned as one. Callaway simply did not as good fo a job as they could have for whatever reason.

The motor was an N/A motor that has been used in other turbo applications if I remember right.

And, despite the way Edwin said it, he does make a valid point. The cam gears have been around for awhile. Traveler, on here bought a set and tried to get them to work, however he couldn't get the exhaust cam gear to work right because of the stupid sensor on the stock exhaust cam gear.

He told Tri-Point and then fell off the face of the planet. I had never heard if they fixed the issue or not.

Apparently the issue has been fixed, which is good. And so the topic is relevant, however bumping it every other hour isn't.