FMIC and Hardpipe upgrade...

tweaker

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I see that Spool Turbo makes some nice hard pipes for the MSP, I was looking into upgrading mine and was wondering if I do, and later upgrade the FMIC (...lack of funds for both...), will the hard pipes fit on any FMIC, or will I have to make mods to make them fit? I suppose I could upgrade the FMIC with Spool's too, but just a general question incase I decide on a different one...
 
"What if i already ahve a FMIC....but no piping...does spool turbo sell piping only?"

Um...wouldn't it need to be custom fabricated as different intercoolers from different companies are all different sizes? I'm not trying to be rude or condesending and hope I understood correctly. :)
 
You better have a nice cutting tool. I think it is possible, if you can find the right innercooler....but $900 iON FMIC kit or $945 spool FMIC kit is a good price if you think about it. its going to be $500-$600 for custom pipes, $200+ for BOV and $100+ for the innercooler which comes out to be about $900. I would suggest selling your innercooler and just buy a spool or iON FMIC kit. I've searched for FMIC kits and they are all around $900. If you want a cheaper price, I would just wait as more aftermarket parts are made for the MSP.
 
spacemonkey said:
You better have a nice cutting tool. I think it is possible, if you can find the right innercooler....but $900 iON FMIC kit or $945 spool FMIC kit is a good price if you think about it. its going to be $500-$600 for custom pipes, $200+ for BOV and $100+ for the innercooler which comes out to be about $900. I would suggest selling your innercooler and just buy a spool or iON FMIC kit. I've searched for FMIC kits and they are all around $900. If you want a cheaper price, I would just wait as more aftermarket parts are made for the MSP.

I just wanted to let you know that you cannot count the $200 towards the kits for the BOV. The BOV flange is included with Spool's FMIC and with Ion's kit it works with the stock BPV. Plus you kinda have it backwards about the pricing. I don't think that I have ever seen a quality Intercooler for $100.

It is totally possible to make your own, though it is best if you don't know a lot about it or have not done this before that is easier to buy a pre-made kit.
 
allspooledup said:
What if i already ahve a FMIC....but no piping...does spool turbo sell piping only?

I am sure any company would make custom piping for you. It would probably be best to get something local or drive to your fabricator of choice as they will need to have the IC right there. The IC also should be looked at to make sure that it is not too big, because something like that is not the best thing unless you are a major tuner and have control of the ECU.


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The popularity of intercooling is such that most stock turbocharged systems run some sort of intercooler. Like turbos, the proper sizing of the intercooler, especially its core, is important.

Of course, the dimensions of a unit affect its ability to cool charged air, with cores that have more surface area with less depth have more efficiency than those that are shorter and "fatter". In addition, there is also the consideration of a phenomenon of "pressure drop".

This is most notable when an intercooler that is too large is matched up with a turbo that is on the smaller side. (and this isn't a reflection of Ty's manhood)

In order to properly pressurize the air in the system, the turbo must work harder to "fill" a larger intercooler than a smaller one. This leads to increased turbo lag and turbo wear.
 
tweaker said:
I see that Spool Turbo makes some nice hard pipes for the MSP, I was looking into upgrading mine and was wondering if I do, and later upgrade the FMIC (...lack of funds for both...), will the hard pipes fit on any FMIC, or will I have to make mods to make them fit? I suppose I could upgrade the FMIC with Spool's too, but just a general question incase I decide on a different one...

i think what he's asking is that if he gets hardpipes for the stock intercooler, can he get a different one and then attach the pipes to the new FMIC.

if that's what he's asking, i don't think so because the stock intercooler is in a different location and would require different piping from the turbo to the FMIC
 
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