Evo8 turbo on an MSP

[jaw307]

new project after my built motor from protegegarage will be to fab up a kit to mount up an evo8 turbo I picked up.....
lookin for any helpfull info....

 

[2.0t03speed]

umm well what do you want to know obviously your going to have to make a custom manifold with the mitsubishi style turbo flange. your going to need to make a new downpipe,oil feed and return lines, coolant lines, your going to have ot make a custom hot pipe because if i remeber correctly the evo turbos compressor housing points down and if you clock it up it will be on the block side not the radiator side so youll need a new one of those. hmm your going to spend alot of money getting it to work i would say itd be easier to get a gt28rs and be done. but your proabbly trying to be unique and i dig that so (thumb) and let me know if you have any more questions. and btw the evo8 turbo is a 20g correct? me personally ive always been a fan of the evoIII 16g's.

-ryan

 

[crashkelly]

umm well what do you want to know obviously your going to have to make a custom manifold with the mitsubishi style turbo flange. your going to need to make a new downpipe,oil feed and return lines, coolant lines, your going to have ot make a custom hot pipe because if i remeber correctly the evo turbos compressor housing points down and if you clock it up it will be on the block side not the radiator side so youll need a new one of those. hmm your going to spend alot of money getting it to work i would say itd be easier to get a gt28rs and be done. but your proabbly trying to be unique and i dig that so (thumbs up)let me know if you have any more questions. and btw the evo8 turbo is a 20g correct? me personally ive always been a fan of the evoIII 16g's.

-ryan

that pretty much explains it...why an Evo turbo? I mean there is a reason that people go with the disco potato for our cars. They are extremely powerful and dont require any fab work for the manifold. I am all for being different, but it seems like a waste of time and money...theres nothing that special about a 20g turbo...I better not get an answer of "well they have a 2.0 liter 300hp engine and my msp is a 2.0 liter but only 170 hp. So if I switch to the evos turb I'll have 300 hp!"...Seriously I want a better explanation!

 

[crashkelly]

also you mention a built motor is coming? When are you expecting that?

 

[2.0t03speed]

if i had to guess id say hed put in/ fab up the manifold at the same time he put the motor in

 

[jred321]

something helpful will be to remember that the turbo is a twin scroll so you should make sure the correct cylinders are going to the correct side of the turbo to take advantage of it when building the manifold.

 

[jeffmsp]

maybe he picked it up cheap from someone who upgraded their evo turbo to something bigger.

 

[orng1]

I don't see the point in all the work to getting a few HP, is there really that much to be gained from swapping to this turbo? The EVO makes 276hp but that's at 19psi, even then I think the EVO head is where a lot of the power is made. You don't hear a lot of people porting that head, it's already good.

 

[jred321]

the turbo should be good until around 22-23psi which, on the evo, is around 350whp. the evo runs a lower static compression ratio than a stock MSP so in theory the MSP at the same boost level should make more power. it's capable of a good amount more power than most MSPs will ever see. the issue he'll run into is being able to take advantage of the capability of the turbo

a very common head mod in the evo 8 is cams. porting is done but not as much because it's . how much power ever really comes from porting a head on a 4 cylinder? 10whp? really not much

 

[livelyjay]

Talk to TurfBurn. He didn't use an Evo8 turbo, but used a 16G from an older DSM on his MP3 (which is for sale right now). He would be a good source of information for your project.

 

[jred321]

turfburn is a great resource, just be warned that the turbo he used (evo 3) is significantly different than the evo 8 turbo. the pre-evo 4 turbo he used, in DSM world, will bolt right on without modification. nothing after will bolt on and i believe it's due to the compressor housing (though not positive, just know if you own a DSM you can't bolt any evo turbo on unless it's an evo 3 or older). there is also the twin scroll thing to take into account when building your manifold that he didn't have to think about since his turbo is a "normal" turbo. he is definitely a smart buy worth talking to about it though as i'm sure he'll have good info to share

 

[jeffmsp]

it might be worth selling the turbo and getting your stocker rebuilt with mpinick interals, but regardless the 20g would be a nice setup. how close is the 4g63 exhaust port spacing compared to a fsde, you could just buy a tubular dsm manifold for teh cheap and cut off the flange and weld a fsde flange. Then you could have a nice tubular manifold for like 200us. i have a dsm manifold back at my parents house ill compare it next time im there

 

[jred321]

the stock turbo is a 16G not a 20G

 

[jaw307]

got the turbo for dirt. thinking of ditching the project because of fitment issues.
it is a 16g evo 8 turboI haven't even paid my buddy for it jet wanted to get some research done before I jumped into it and it looks like the gt28rs will be better.

 

[fatti03msp]

i have the GT28RS and at 9.5psi i love it lol, you will be very happy with the GT28RS.

 

[jaw307]

just put the new motor in so the funds are cashed out this season so doin away with the evo msp project and just going to consentrate on a good tune and upgrade the fuel.

love protegegarage built motor

 

[livelyjay]

Good man .... good EMS tune ftw!

 

[Kooldino]

just put the new motor in so the funds are cashed out this season so doin away with the evo msp project and just going to consentrate on a good tune and upgrade the fuel.

love protegegarage built motor

ProtegeGarage built motor, eh?

 

[jaw307]

sold by protege garage. built by SpeedCircuit

14psi strong with over 2500 miles.