Evo X Thoughts? (Sighting)
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justanothermp5
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oh, its not out over here until like mid winter it says
so u guys are lucky lol does it actually look like all the spy shots and stuff?
Fc tis..very few Evo buyers will be cross-shopping the MS3. Punks who spend their entire Best Buy paycheck on their car each month aside, most of the buyers will be 30 somethings making decent money. They'll undoubtedly be cross shopping the Sti along with even more expensive rides from Infinity, BMW, Lexus, etc. This is why Mitsu did what it did... An by that I mean, make it heavier. By doing so it also made it a lot more refined... and at least capable of being considered with the likes of the aforementioned cars. (conversely, the previous gen was more boy racer... attracting kids who really couldn't afford the car but usually found a way to pay for them anyway.)
So while the MS3 is clearly the best bang for the buck... at least right now, the fact that it's a better deal than the Evo is completely irrelevant. The 2 cars are in different classes... and cater to different buyers. People like us (that is, people that understand cars) know awd is over-rated... the masses eat up all the PR garbage and are willing to pay the premium. Combine that with the "300 hp" badge of honor along with the cachet of owning an "evo" and those same people will be more than willing to pay the extra $10k over an MS3...
As far as any possible buyer's remorse goes... since this car (especially the MR which I'm skeptical you actually saw but I could be wrong) is A LOT more expensive than an MS3, you really shouldn't feel any remorse. As I said, for the price, the MS3 is hands down the best bang for the buck you can get.
But all that could change soon... Once the Raliart hits the street. On paper, it appears to offer much of what its big brother's got... for about $10k less... or, for about what the MS3 costs. Sure it'll have a few less ponies (something that can easily be fixed) but it'll have AWD... If I'm in the market for a $25k 4 door pocket rocket this summer, as much as I love the MS3, the Raliart might become the new king. Especially now that Subaru neutered the WRX
So while the MS3 is clearly the best bang for the buck... at least right now, the fact that it's a better deal than the Evo is completely irrelevant. The 2 cars are in different classes... and cater to different buyers. People like us (that is, people that understand cars) know awd is over-rated... the masses eat up all the PR garbage and are willing to pay the premium. Combine that with the "300 hp" badge of honor along with the cachet of owning an "evo" and those same people will be more than willing to pay the extra $10k over an MS3...
As far as any possible buyer's remorse goes... since this car (especially the MR which I'm skeptical you actually saw but I could be wrong) is A LOT more expensive than an MS3, you really shouldn't feel any remorse. As I said, for the price, the MS3 is hands down the best bang for the buck you can get.
But all that could change soon... Once the Raliart hits the street. On paper, it appears to offer much of what its big brother's got... for about $10k less... or, for about what the MS3 costs. Sure it'll have a few less ponies (something that can easily be fixed) but it'll have AWD... If I'm in the market for a $25k 4 door pocket rocket this summer, as much as I love the MS3, the Raliart might become the new king. Especially now that Subaru neutered the WRX
flipstylex
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hey guys i own a evo, im so cool !!! 
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+1
the raliart definitely has the potential to wipe the floor with the ms3. if they can offer similar performance in AWD and a more refined package, then mazda is going to be thanking its lucky stars that 2008 was the last planned ms3 year anyways...
Renzokuken
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they need to bring back the RX7
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Agreed!
It will have a full auto mode too, which will be great for city driving and a setting that will keep the RPM's high for track use. If you are not a serious autoX person, this type of transmission is the best of both worlds. If the MS3 had that option; I would have it (nice grammar eh!).
Coming from the Mitsubishi family, the Evo X is the only reason why I didn't buy another Mitsubishi. I tried to get my hands on an Evo IX, but I couldn't and the X to me, is not worth it. I'm sure the 4B11t is a good motor, but Mitsubishi should have left the 4G63 in it. I think they went with a to radical of a body style. I know it should evolve, but if you look back at the Evo I through the Evo IX, you can see some similarities. Some dealers are also trying to sell them for as high as $40,000. I highly doubt that car is worth that kind of money.
No way that Ralliart costs 25K with the SST dual clutch standard. There is no manual option, and that is an expensive feature. You think they will cost the same as a MS3 GT and have AWD and have SST? I just don't see that happening. They've said mid 20's, but my bet is that there is no way you are getting out there under 27K base. I think it will be priced more like a GTI with DSG, which run about 28K.
shane02pro5
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I really like the styling 100x better than the previous models but +$10k and no clutch I don't think I could bring myself to! A GTR I might live with the paddle shifting! MIGHT?!
FYI, Dyno4mance.com (shop near me) just dyno'd their first Evo X on their Dyno Dynamics dyno and it made 222whp stock. Their stock Speed 3 put down 208whp on that same dyno on a hotter day. I'd take an Evo X, believe me coming from a cammed VIII, but my money was well spent on the Speed 3.
Yesterday it was cold and raining which left me little to do- I ventured over to the Subaru and Mitsubishi dealers to check out the goods. The STI is really nice looking in person! Wow! 38k with the "BBS kit"? Nah...
The Evolution X is sort of cheap looking/feeling and they had a 5k dealer mark-up which put the car at 40,365. I made a comment to the salesmen about the 5K mark-up and he said it ' should really only be 3k' and told me if I wanted one they'd do it for a 3k mark-up. (kissass)
The Evolution X is sort of cheap looking/feeling and they had a 5k dealer mark-up which put the car at 40,365. I made a comment to the salesmen about the 5K mark-up and he said it ' should really only be 3k' and told me if I wanted one they'd do it for a 3k mark-up. (kissass)
LazerBlueP5
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lol...dealer mark-ups crack me up. MSRP is already a "mark up" over invoice. Bastards!
I remember when the Evo first came out, someone posted a sticker from a dealer that had a 10k mark-up on it. lol Heck even Toyota does it. I remember seeing a used MR2 Spyder when they were first re-released. I thought, "Wow I might be able to pick this up a few thousand under MSRP because it has a few miles on it". NOPE...even used it was 5k over MSRP. Ironicly enough Toyota couldn't sell those cars for squat. Worst selling model in Toyotas recent history...thus the reason it's now extinct. Now...they are marking up the FJs, even years after first release!
Dealers blow.
I remember when the Evo first came out, someone posted a sticker from a dealer that had a 10k mark-up on it. lol Heck even Toyota does it. I remember seeing a used MR2 Spyder when they were first re-released. I thought, "Wow I might be able to pick this up a few thousand under MSRP because it has a few miles on it". NOPE...even used it was 5k over MSRP. Ironicly enough Toyota couldn't sell those cars for squat. Worst selling model in Toyotas recent history...thus the reason it's now extinct. Now...they are marking up the FJs, even years after first release!
Dealers blow.
