essential speed vs ion exhaust

Ion's is better, more expensive and shipping is a lot. The wait times for Ion seem pretty long. ES doesn't look like a full 3" from the pics, but I'm not 100% on that. Your choice. I would buy Ion's between the two. ********** is coming out with one similar to the ES, except there is a HKS C-TI muffler which definately has the bling-bling effect. I'm not sure when that's going to be done, but I am waiting for results on that before choosing.
 
do Not Buy From Essential Speed, You Will Never Get Your Product, You Will Get Horrible Customer Service, You Will Be Lied Too, And Will Probly Get Your Product Months After You Paid For It. Trust Me, They Suck Ass.
 
DSMconvert's exhuast..
its not a full turbo back yet but he will be making one for a very good price and much quicker then the others
 
I'm Allen said:
Get the iON.

Allen-
yes, by all means, if you have money to burn and all the time in the world, get Ion. if you're willing to sacrifice 5whp, spend 1/3rd of the money and go custom.
 
mspdfreak said:
yes, by all means, if you have money to burn and all the time in the world, get Ion. if you're willing to sacrifice 5whp, spend 1/3rd of the money and go custom.
Totally agree! There is no reason why people should pay so much and wait so long for either one of those exhausts. (stooges)
 
lol, I love when you question their price, they say "well, we did so much R&D it has to cost this much"...wow, so I have to eat the $700 difference because you managed to get 5 more horsepower?...no thanks.
 
mspdfreak said:
lol, I love when you question their price, they say "well, we did so much R&D it has to cost this much"...wow, so I have to eat the $700 difference because you managed to get 5 more horsepower?...no thanks.
(lol2) so true. But you forgot they have to pay their rocket scientists for squeezing that extra 5hp out.
 
but you see, it's not worth the money...I mean $700 more for 5hp? Props to them for getting the mos out the system, but don't pass it on to me! I just can't justify that much money for that extra power. oh well...if you have it to spend...go for it.
 
Does anyone have a link for the thread showing that iONs makes 5 hp more than everyone elses?
Also people with the ion exhaust, did you guys notice a difference in the boost characteristics?
 
A magazine did an article on their exhaust for the MSP. Do a search for their last GB thread and the copy of the article is there.
 
The exhaust made 22whp in turbo mag but the car was not in stock form. It also had the ion fmic and cai
 
Yeah I have the article. The way people were talking about the exhausts I thought someone actually did a comparison. Has anyone done this with ions and another exhaust to get actual hp differences? Or are they just assuming that an actual dp with separate path for the w/g makes no difference?
 
mspeed101 said:
The exhaust made 22whp in turbo mag but the car was not in stock form. It also had the ion fmic and cai

The 22 whp was in addition to what was already made by the FMIC and CAI. The best part is at the top of the rev range when you see an additional 30+ whp. That shows me just how restrictive the stock S-pipe really is. With the iON exhaust, the hp doesn't drop off. To me, the extra money is worth it.

Allen-
 
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