Edmunds: MAZDASPEED3 is KING!!!

[nondual]

MS3 isnt available with a sunroof?

Moonroof.

 

[nondual]

Man the suspense.

I know this car would beat my brothers 2004 VW GTI, but what about a 2006 Audi A3? My own family is my competition. =)

The A3 comes in turbo 4 (I believe) and six-cylinder versions. I've heard the six-cylinder A3 rocks.

 

[slug420]

Moonroof.

its not offered with one of those either is it?

 

[bbrich57]

23 years ago, the GTI was the pocket rocket to have. A fun little car that was fairly cheap to buy and to operate. Easy and cheap to fix when it needed it. I have read that the newest version is a blast like no other GTI before it and I have no doubt about this, but VW's reliability rep has gone way down hill too.
I'd say, you guys made the right choice for today's pocket rocket.
Congrats to both of you... and Welcome to the Forums!!

 

[bbrich57]

its not offered with one of those either is it?

Define please? (rlaugh)

OK, to me the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof is that a sunroof is a metal panel installed in the roof that opens up by means of a crank or an electric motor, usually retracting into the roof. Where as a moonroof is the same thing only w/a glass panel, and possibly an inside sunshade. This could very well be old school thinking however. I believe these definitions have been muddied w/time.
No. MS3's are not being offered w/either of these features and probably never will be. As previously discussed (somewhere) there is a cross, or X brace in the roof to help stiffen the chassis. A sun/moon roof would compromise that brace.
That's the price you pay for the MS3... that and 23K+/-. (lol)

 

[slug420]

yea, i heard about that cross brace as being why the MSP has no sunroof.....BS

 

[bbrich57]

Ah, alas. My humor is wasted here....

 

[bbrich57]

 

[clicknext]

I laughed. (spin)

 

[slug420]

i dont get it...whatd i miss

 

[bbrich57]

Riiiggghhhtttt. My point exactly. Very funny slug420.
j/k

 

[nondual]

Define please? (rlaugh)

OK, to me the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof is that a sunroof is a metal panel installed in the roof that opens up by means of a crank or an electric motor, usually retracting into the roof. Where as a moonroof is the same thing only w/a glass panel, and possibly an inside sunshade. This could very well be old school thinking however. I believe these definitions have been muddied w/time.
No. MS3's are not being offered w/either of these features and probably never will be. As previously discussed (somewhere) there is a cross, or X brace in the roof to help stiffen the chassis. A sun/moon roof would compromise that brace.
That's the price you pay for the MS3... that and 23K+/-. (lol)

WTF?

I just talked to the dealer and he SWEARS it has a moonroof. I even told him that the option doesn't show up anywhere on the Mazda website.

Apparently he's confused?

 

[nondual]

Wait...

Did you say that a moonroof would compromise the chassis?

Ok, I get the joke...

The STi Limited will come with a sunroof. I doubt it will have much effect on chassis stability. My understanding was that the sunroof was eliminated from the original STi because it added weight.

 

[buit9110]

not long ago in the mazda web page, they announced that the car was over 250 hp, edmunds just copied of the page and waited until they released the real numbers, they edited the hp, so now its 263 hp and 280 tq here is the link http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=116868

 

[bbrich57]

Did you say that a moonroof would compromise the chassis?

I'm certainly no engineer, nor have I had the chance to take one of these apart to see for myself, but that's what everybody has been saying.

 

[nondual]

I'm certainly no engineer, nor have I had the chance to take one of these apart to see for myself, but that's what everybody has been saying.

Apparently everybody is wrong

I just got my VIN and called Mazda customer service who confirmed my ETA and that my car does in fact have a Bose Stereo and Moonroof package.

 

[bbrich57]

WOW! There IS hope.
I want one w/a roof too, just thought it wasn't possible.

 

[nondual]

WOW! There IS hope.
I want one w/a roof too, just thought it wasn't possible.

When it comes in, we'll know for sure....for now, everyone 'official' that I've talked to says it's coming with a Sun/moonroof.

 

[bbrich57]

Forgive my cynicism, but I just did a thorough search and build of an MS3GT on the Mazda USA site. There is mention of a 7 speaker Bose system w/6 disk CD changer, but not a single word on a sun/moonroof. Even using the upscale GT model and having printed out the window sticker, which seems to list everything... nothing.
I am on your side though and hope that you're right! I've loved my sunroofs, just as I've loved my drop tops and would hope the MS3 is available w/a roof.
It's one thing I miss in my current ride.

 

[nondual]

Forgive my cynicism, but I just did a thorough search and build of an MS3GT on the Mazda USA site. There is mention of a 7 speaker Bose system w/6 disk CD changer, but not a single word on a sun/moonroof. Even using the upscale GT model and having printed out the window sticker, which seems to list everything... nothing.
I am on your side though and hope that you're right! I've loved my sunroofs, just as I've loved my drop tops and would hope the MS3 is available w/a roof.
It's one thing I miss in my current ride.

I know...that's why I was skeptical - I tried to build one and that option just wasn't there. Of course, you can't actually build a Sport with the Bose stereo option either, but if you look at comparison specs, it says it's part of a package....but doesn't say what package or really point to ANYTHING else that is part of a package. A package is a GROUP of options though, and so...maybe their webmonkeys need to be fired?