Eaton S/C
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Yes the response and power band would be nice. I was even playing with dyno 2000 with the jdm 10.4 pistons with 6 psi. Would be pretty nice the power. The way I am trying is really feasible but cant really tell the clearances of my plan until I get home and put the manifold on withouth the pleaniums. I am going to try and get the thunderbird s/c from a junkyard or e-bay for fab.
Well since I wont even be home for 5 weeks and have alot to when I get home since I have been gone for a while. I wont be working on this for a while. So if you got to get it done before me good luck. I didnt want to have someone steal my idea, but I think it will work and if you can get a roots done it would be nice.
Last thing before I sign out. If you get this done I was going to run it at 6-7 psi. So you should be able to use the msp ecu since I believe the t-25 ran at that pressure so the fuel and igniton curves might run fine for it. That would be a better way for fuel managment. Good Luck
The Thomas Knight kit most likely has an M62. In the early 90s, the t-bird used the M62. I think they switched to the M90 around 94.
I've got a couple of extra M90s in my garage and thought about putting one in the P5. It wouldn't be that hard. The older (early 90s 323 and probe) 2.0L didn't have long intake runners, that intake manifold would be a good donor to start with. Roots supercharger go well with short runners and large plenums, so construct a box to go from the supercharger to the intake manifold. The main thing holding me back was driving the thing. I could come up with a solution to get it to turn. However, on my other car, I spin the supercharger at 12,000 rpm and that takes about 80hp. That's a lot of parasitic loss, which is why most folks just stick with a turbo.
The Eatons from the late 90s to current are much nicer with the internal bypass. A gen 5 has a better port design, but a gen 3 will be adequate for our application.
I've got a couple of extra M90s in my garage and thought about putting one in the P5. It wouldn't be that hard. The older (early 90s 323 and probe) 2.0L didn't have long intake runners, that intake manifold would be a good donor to start with. Roots supercharger go well with short runners and large plenums, so construct a box to go from the supercharger to the intake manifold. The main thing holding me back was driving the thing. I could come up with a solution to get it to turn. However, on my other car, I spin the supercharger at 12,000 rpm and that takes about 80hp. That's a lot of parasitic loss, which is why most folks just stick with a turbo.
The Eatons from the late 90s to current are much nicer with the internal bypass. A gen 5 has a better port design, but a gen 3 will be adequate for our application.
GNO said:
all verry verry good things to know thanks for adding this!! hmm i dono about that m90 just because the intake is on the top and outlet on bottom. I like what knight did in the first pics by adding the mercedes s/c which has thin intake at the side (same area as the intake for our cars now) and the gm side of the s/c (belt side) for the length i assume. just the belt setup isnt so good as u can see from the pic. so grab those 2 parts for the s/c get someone to make that intake (also in the pic) and thats the worst of it done. my next question is whats all that jumble of intake stuff on the right side of the s/c? id need specifics if anyone can see what that is, then maybe this can come together.... the pics are on page one at the top
keep me posted on what you do, i might be interested in one of those m90's if your selling? and if you think it can work
twizyours said:
ahahahah, same i wanted to be first with the roots on my p5 but w/e i dont care it will be so fun it really doesnt matter. you will have this done long before me, i might be at home but i have $100 bucks to my name so i will be saving for a couple months before any videos of my rocket car will be up on here, lol (drive2)
I took a couple of pics with an M90 from a GM L67 next to an FS intake manifold. The height the width would make a good fit, but it's too long. The M62 is a bit shorter, so that'd work better.
There are a variety of M62 input and output configurations. Having the output on top like the t-bird it nice for air-air intercooling. The output on the bottom, like pictured, a liquid-air intercooler would have to be sandwiched in between and there's not much space for that. Intercooling isn't necessary at low boost, but low boost gets old quick, so it's nice to be prepared
There are a variety of M62 input and output configurations. Having the output on top like the t-bird it nice for air-air intercooling. The output on the bottom, like pictured, a liquid-air intercooler would have to be sandwiched in between and there's not much space for that. Intercooling isn't necessary at low boost, but low boost gets old quick, so it's nice to be prepared
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Mp90 is a big blower capable of alot of power but also since its so big causes alot of power loss to run it. I have a Mp62 on my tib currently and there is a Mp90 kit for the tib at makes over 300 whp but like I said might not be the best choice for an I4 set up such as the FSDE. Mp90 lets out a sweet loud whine though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqIWJTFB5eE I don't know how much power you are looking for but if it's not too extreme there is always and Mp45 blower which is tiny and easy to run and they are designed for 2.0 cars. http://www.capa.com.au/eaton_mp45_4th.htm
