Eat it up guys! The new turbo manifold... :)

my fitment is awesome i guess. only issue is we have to extend the egr pipe an inch longer. no biggie. other than that it clears everything i guess.
 
my fitment is awesome i guess. only issue is we have to extend the egr pipe an inch longer. no biggie. other than that it clears everything i guess.

probably just do yourself a favor and block the EGR off on the manifold and run a filter on the EGR itself so it still sees flow.
 
i don't believe there is performance to be gained by removing it, so whats the benefit? aside from it being unreliable.. I'd replace it with the CDM version before blocking it off.
 
its not that they run better but it keeps the carbon out of the tb/intake mani/valves/ect. The EGR is a pure emmisions device
 
we'll see how it runs hooked up first, the right way...i dont want it to get all ****** up like a dsm... ;)
 
EGR also cools down combustion chamber heat---NOx to the emissions world---
hook it back up for sure
 
It could be removed, fuel system needs to be tuned because it will detonate without egr

(yupnope) You are confusing NOx with Knock. NOx is a gas created by high combustion temps. Knock is a predetonation. Knock happens in high load situations, the EGR combats NOx at low load cruising situations. The two have nothing to do with each other whatsoever.
 
lol its cool, i ran my MSP without the EGR hooked up for over 2 years and my g/f's p5 is going on 2years without it and i have yet to find an ill effect. Plus it saved me from having to find a 626 egr pipe and it keeps alot of carbon out of the intake tract
 
i have install pics, well from the test fit at least...i'll have them up in the morning.
 
(yupnope) You are confusing NOx with Knock. NOx is a gas created by high combustion temps. Knock is a predetonation. Knock happens in high load situations, the EGR combats NOx at low load cruising situations. The two have nothing to do with each other whatsoever.

doesnt the EGR lower combustion temps? which should reduce NOx and couldnt that also reduce the chance of pre det. since the temp of the combustion chamber is lower?
 
if your getting pre-det. there is nothing the EGR is going to do to save it and you have a much more serious issue. Like i stated pre-det normally only occurs on modified cars under high load and/or high rpm situations the EGR only functions to cool combustion temps under low load low RPM situations. If you have ever seen a sniffer emissions test run they never really get the car going over 25-35mph and they will hold it cruising at that speed for about 45-60secs to check among other things your NOx output.
 
doesnt the EGR lower combustion temps? which should reduce NOx and couldnt that also reduce the chance of pre det. since the temp of the combustion chamber is lower?

if you have detonation issues at idle... you have bigger problems. as has been said, the EGR does nothing at WOT... which is when you would tend to care about detonation.
 
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