down falls of short shifters over time

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Just make sure that you don't force it into gear. It's tempting to want to shift as fast as you can with a short shifter, but you're trans will hate you. I have a friend with an Spec-v who likes to pull on the shifter as hard and fast as he can sometimes. I kept telling him that it's not good for the syncros. What happened? Well, let's just say that he can't shift into 3rd anymore.
 
If you're sloppy you can miss-shift and hit the wrong gear, or you can do what Spooled is talking about. Basically, if you're not a total dumbass, and have a little bit of hand-eye coordination, you should be ok. I get them for all of my cars, I see no downside.
 
Here's something that I was thinking about. I've noticed that the short-shifter made shifting much more difficult (read: notchy), and was wondering if the extra effort needed has to do with the angle that the rod is being pushed/pulled. I know that the difference in leverage will make it harder, but this is different. It almost feels like there is a small tolerance for the angle in which the synchros can be manipulated. Since the short-shifter has a longer section below the pivot, the end is no longer pushing/pulling in a straight shot to the tranny, rather it's more of an upward angle towards it. Could this have an affect on synchro life?

I thought about this after sitting in azian6er's car and noticing that his shifter has a very smooth action compared to the notchy feeling of mine. We both have Kartboy bushings, but he has the stock shifter and I have a TWM.
 
Spooled said:
Here's something that I was thinking about. I've noticed that the short-shifter made shifting much more difficult (read: notchy), and was wondering if the extra effort needed has to do with the angle that the rod is being pushed/pulled. I know that the difference in leverage will make it harder, but this is different. It almost feels like there is a small tolerance for the angle in which the synchros can be manipulated. Since the short-shifter has a longer section below the pivot, the end is no longer pushing/pulling in a straight shot to the tranny, rather it's more of an upward angle towards it. Could this have an affect on synchro life?

I thought about this after sitting in azian6er's car and noticing that his shifter has a very smooth action compared to the notchy feeling of mine. We both have Kartboy bushings, but he has the stock shifter and I have a TWM.
Short shifters will decrease the life of your syncros, by how much all depends on how much shorter the throw is than stock.
 
I don't think it's bad at all. Seeing how the MSP is a short shifter compared to the stock protege, it wouldn't decrease the life of the sychros by a noticable amount imo
 
I didn't notice any notchiness at all after I installed my Kartboy. Totally smooth, and I'm slamming thorugh the gears all the time. Maybe missed a gear a few times, but for how much I'm in my car, it's not even an issue with me. Definately worth the price IMO.
 
BlueWolfCry said:
I don't think it's bad at all. Seeing how the MSP is a short shifter compared to the stock protege, it wouldn't decrease the life of the sychros by a noticable amount imo
The MSP shifter is the same length below the fulcrum point as the sedan/P5 shifter. Therefore, the throws of the two shifters are identical. However, the MSP/MP3 shifters are~one inch shorter above the fulcrum point. This means your hand will move through a smaller distance when shifting even though the throws are the same.
 

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