Dodge says CX-5 is the only Hornet's competitor

Freedom55

2020 CX-5 GS AWD Montreal Canada
<div class="bbWrapper">Very flattering for the CX-5 as Dodge claims no other compact crossover can compete with its new Hornet!<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="384604" data-url="https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-dodge-hornet-first-drive-review/" data-host="www.motortrend.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motortrend.com%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F03%2F003-2023-dodge-hornet.jpg&amp;hash=73316d1977e2d090320085f8cb5f2e42&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.motortrend.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-dodge-hornet-first-drive-review/" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> 2023 Dodge Hornet First Drive: A Small SUV as Only Dodge Could Do It </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">As a bonus, it&#039;s basically a discount Alfa Romeo.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motortrend.com%2Fstatic%2Fmotortrend%2Ffavicon.ico&amp;hash=e0ee87598f8cdefdb1a64a9d5826c4ca&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.motortrend.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.motortrend.com </div> </div> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">It sounds like an interesting car, but being an Alfa Romeo/Dodge, I would never buy it due to reliability issues which are sure to crop up. I like the looks though. And the Brembo brakes.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Not impressed with it at all, I think it&#039;s going to be as popular as their Dart (new version). Now, their Challenger Hellcat Redeye on the other hand......Phenomenal.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Also very uncertain resale value...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">This is kinda like the meme about Ferrari spending millions to develop a CX-30.</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">Stellantis, Dodge is known for cramming a V8 Hemi in everything. Gotta respect that. Done now because because of- well, I digress. Truth be told, of all the auto companies that contribute to my paycheck- they are right there with GM. The people in the powertrain plants are good people. I work with them.<div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1613264700412.webp" data-src="https://mazdas247.com/forum/attachments/1613264700412-webp.318220/" data-type="image" data-lb-sidebar-href="/forum/i/1613264700412-jpg.74550/?lightbox=1" data-lb-caption-extra-html="&nbsp;&middot; &lt;a href=&quot;/forum/i/1613264700412-jpg.74550/&quot;&gt;&lt;i class=&quot;fa--xf far fa-camera &quot;&gt;&lt;svg xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2000/svg&quot; role=&quot;img&quot; aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; &gt;&lt;use href=&quot;/forum/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1773182814#camera&quot;&gt;&lt;/use&gt;&lt;/svg&gt;&lt;/i&gt; View media item&lt;/a&gt;" data-single-image="1" > <img src="https://mazdas247.com/forum/attachments/1613264700412-webp.318220/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="1613264700412.webp" title="1613264700412.webp" width="788" height="691" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">At least Dodge didn&#039;t try to compare their Hornet to Audi Q3/Q5, BMW X1/X3 or M-B GLB/GLC <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f608.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":devilish:" title="Devil :devilish:" data-smilie="29"data-shortname=":devilish:" /> Some reviews compare it to the CX-30 as the Hornet is on the small side of compact crossovers.<br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="384676" data-url="https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-dodge-hornet-vs-mazda-cx-30-specs-comparison/" data-host="www.motortrend.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motortrend.com%2Fuploads%2F2022%2F09%2F2022-Mazda-CX-30-vs-2023-Dodge-Hornet.jpg&amp;hash=1c148d9229a0dc8803ef8a6f86cc2d48&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.motortrend.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-dodge-hornet-vs-mazda-cx-30-specs-comparison/" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> 2023 Dodge Hornet vs. 2022 Mazda CX-30: Sporty Small SUVs Compared </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">How does the 2023 Dodge Hornet stack up against the 2022 Mazda CX-30 Turbo? We compare the crossovers on paper, including features, dimensions, power.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motortrend.com%2Fstatic%2Fmotortrend%2Ffavicon.ico&amp;hash=e0ee87598f8cdefdb1a64a9d5826c4ca&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.motortrend.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.motortrend.com </div> </div> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">That Hornet is a nice looking car. Much better looking than most of the Japanese makers I favor.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 152434" data-quote="murky" data-source="post: 6775557" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=6775557" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6775557">murky said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> That Hornet is a nice looking car. Much better looking than most of the Japanese makers I favor. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I agree it looks really great but I don&#039;t need or want something that drives that sporty. I like my CX-5 with its 17&quot; tires and wouldn&#039;t want anything that rides stiffer but to each their own.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Still cannot believe they are stopping V-8 Hemi production for North America. (Still in Mexico)<br /> <br /> They seem 2 B doubling down on the GMET-4, GMET-6, and EVO blocks.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 186428" data-quote="ch3no2" data-source="post: 6775575" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=6775575" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6775575">ch3no2 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Still cannot believe they are stopping V-8 Hemi production for North America. (Still in Mexico)<br /> <br /> They seem 2 B doubling down on the GMET-4, GMET-6, and EVO blocks. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>glad I have my 6.4 Hemi. kind of wanted to get one of the 300&#039;s that came out with the last hemi this year instead of the cx5 but my wife said no lol. I have had 5 different Fiat and or Stellantis vehicles and knock on wood have been pretty lucky as far as having issues so far. <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="IMG_3384.webp" data-src="https://mazdas247.com/forum/attachments/img_3384-webp.318254/" data-type="image" data-lb-sidebar-href="/forum/i/img_3384-jpg.74562/?lightbox=1" data-lb-caption-extra-html="&nbsp;&middot; &lt;a href=&quot;/forum/i/img_3384-jpg.74562/&quot;&gt;&lt;i class=&quot;fa--xf far fa-camera &quot;&gt;&lt;svg xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2000/svg&quot; role=&quot;img&quot; aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; &gt;&lt;use href=&quot;/forum/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1773182814#camera&quot;&gt;&lt;/use&gt;&lt;/svg&gt;&lt;/i&gt; View media item&lt;/a&gt;" data-single-image="1" > <img src="https://mazdas247.com/forum/attachments/img_3384-webp.318254/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="IMG_3384.webp" title="IMG_3384.webp" width="1280" height="960" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 186428" data-quote="ch3no2" data-source="post: 6775575" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=6775575" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6775575">ch3no2 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Still cannot believe they are stopping V-8 Hemi production for North America. (Still in Mexico)<br /> <br /> They seem 2 B doubling down on the GMET-4, GMET-6, and EVO blocks. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Some speculate that the &quot;last call&quot; bit is just a marketing ploy, seems to be working as sales are taking off. I will miss those big hp hemis, but the new twin turbocharged v6 looks promising, though I&#039;d stay from the first few years of production models until they work out all the kinks.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 123314" data-quote="madar" data-source="post: 6775613" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=6775613" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6775613">madar said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Some speculate that the &quot;last call&quot; bit is just a marketing ploy, seems to be working as sales are taking off. I will miss those big hp hemis, but the new twin turbocharged v6 looks promising, though I&#039;d stay from the first few years of production models until they work out all the kinks. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You mean inline 6 twin turbo? The hurricane should be a beast</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 191570" data-quote="jadmt" data-source="post: 6775621" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=6775621" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6775621">jadmt said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You mean inline 6 twin turbo? The hurricane should be a beast </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You&#039;re right. I thought it was a v6. Looked too small to be an inline at first.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Interesting article.<br /> <br /> This is my last hurrah when I want to go fast. The Mazda is a great car, but it&#039;s just to get me from point &quot;A&quot; to point &quot;B.&quot;<br /> <br /> Sad to see governments destroy all this. I&#039;m glad I grew up when I did.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1680154571794.webp" data-src="https://mazdas247.com/forum/attachments/1680154571794-webp.318264/" data-type="image" data-lb-sidebar-href="/forum/i/1680154571794-jpeg.74567/?lightbox=1" data-lb-caption-extra-html="&nbsp;&middot; &lt;a href=&quot;/forum/i/1680154571794-jpeg.74567/&quot;&gt;&lt;i class=&quot;fa--xf far fa-camera &quot;&gt;&lt;svg xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2000/svg&quot; role=&quot;img&quot; aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; &gt;&lt;use href=&quot;/forum/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1773182814#camera&quot;&gt;&lt;/use&gt;&lt;/svg&gt;&lt;/i&gt; View media item&lt;/a&gt;" data-single-image="1" > <img src="https://mazdas247.com/forum/attachments/1680154571794-webp.318264/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="1680154571794.webp" title="1680154571794.webp" width="1280" height="960" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">So there was the Hudson Hornet then the AMC Hornet and now the Dodge Hornet. Ok to recycle names I guess. After all here we have the Renault/Dacia Duster recycling the 70s Plymouth name. Of course in the 70s the name meant it would &quot;dust off&quot; the competition. Renault/Dacia&#039;s chouce choice name makes no sense but both versions were developed in non English speaking countries (France and Romania) and mostly sold in such countries so who cares I guess. Auto name choices can be pretty funny and problematic. There&#039;s the story about when Chevrolet tried to sell the Chevy Nova in Mexico. &quot;No va&quot; in Spanish means &quot;doesn&#039;t go&quot;. There is a Chinese pickup on sale here in Colombia that is a carbon copy of an early 90s Toyota Hilux. It&#039;s name is Wingle. Can you imagine a US driver proadly saying &quot;I drive a Wingle&quot;. Back to the Dodge it sure looks like a copy of the CX 5 hence naming it as the competition. Other than the horsepower...and maybe the Brembo brakes (so how long do those pads last?) I wouldn&#039;t be tempted away from the Mazda.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 177538" data-quote="Pitter" data-source="post: 6775937" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=6775937" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6775937">Pitter said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> So there was the Hudson Hornet then the AMC Hornet and now the Dodge Hornet. <b><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">Ok to recycle names</span></b> <b><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">I guess.</span></b> After all here we have the Renault/Dacia Duster recycling the 70s Plymouth name. Of course in the 70s the name meant it would &quot;dust off&quot; the competition. Renault/Dacia&#039;s chouce choice name makes no sense but both versions were developed in non English speaking countries (France and Romania) and mostly sold in such countries so who cares I guess. Auto name choices can be pretty funny and problematic. There&#039;s the story about when Chevrolet tried to sell the Chevy Nova in Mexico. <b><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)">&quot;No va&quot; in Spanish means &quot;doesn&#039;t go&quot;.</span></b> There is a Chinese pickup on sale here in Colombia that is a carbon copy of an early 90s Toyota Hilux. It&#039;s name is Wingle. Can you imagine a US driver proadly saying &quot;I drive a Wingle&quot;. Back to the Dodge it sure looks like a copy of the CX 5 hence naming it as the competition. Other than the horsepower...and maybe the Brembo brakes (so how long do those pads last?) I wouldn&#039;t be tempted away from the Mazda. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)"><b>Names to avoid recycling</b></span>: from Stellantis Horizon/Omni, from Ford Edsel/Pinto, from GM Corvair/Chevette/Citation! <b><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)">Audi has a line of e-tron vehicles which means stool, pooh or s**t in slang</span></b> <b><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)">French (étron)</span></b> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" data-smilie="12"data-shortname="o_O" /> There are many good names that can be recycled, Valiant, Belvedere, Falcon, Fairlane, Galaxie, Torino, Malibu, Chevelle, etc. which all had a good success back in the day. Or they can use letters and numbers like Mazda and others...!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 183071" data-quote="Freedom55" data-source="post: 6776096" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=6776096" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6776096">Freedom55 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)"><b>Names to avoid recycling</b></span>: from Stellantis Horizon/Omni, from Ford Edsel/Pinto, from GM Corvair/Chevette/Citation! <b><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)">Audi has a line of e-tron vehicles which means stool, pooh or s**t in slang</span></b> <b><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)">French (étron)</span></b> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" data-smilie="12"data-shortname="o_O" /> There are many good names that can be recycled, Valiant, Belvedere, Falcon, Fairlane, Galaxie, Torino, Malibu, Chevelle, etc. which all had a good success back in the day. Or they can use letters and numbers like Mazda and others...! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Don&#039;t forget Aries/Reliant. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😁" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f601.png" title="Beaming face with smiling eyes :grin:" data-shortname=":grin:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></div>
 
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