The reason I ask is that I'm debating whether to lease the car for 3 yrs, or buy it and keep it for more than 5 yrs. One thing I hate about owning a car is that, when you sell the car, it's a hassle and you feel that you're getting ripped off. You never seem to get the "blue book" price, whether you sell to dealer or private party. But if a car has long term quality and fun, it makes better economic sense to buy it and keep it for several yrs. Is the MS3 such a car, or do you get tired of the transmission and all the shifting? Does anyone want to keep it for more than 3 yrs?