Debating trading for SRT-4
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Yes, both are the basis of the other. Much like my STi is an imprezza. However, the Neon has a different Engine, tranmission and suspension then the regular neon if I'm not mistaken, that would make it a Neon shell only. Same for the STi and the EVO for that matter. In other words, its far less of a neon then the MSP is of a protege. Afterall, the MSP is a small turbo, tuned up suspension, and a crappy kenwood stereo slapped onto a protege.mp5jeff said:
Hi all! Yes! I made the switch from the MSP to SRT-4 (was having issues w/ the MSP electrical system). And yes I get ragged on by my friends as being on a neon (chasis 
) But when they actually look at the car and ride in they change there opinions. The interior (excluding seats, gauge cluster, and boost gauge), headlights, and chasis ar from the neon production line. But the rest of the car has totally different parts from the regular neon. I'm not going to list what has been added but let you read. Here's the link to a very good article on the origin of the SRT-4 and the changes they made from the prototype to the '03 release date to the current '05.
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98857
) But when they actually look at the car and ride in they change there opinions. The interior (excluding seats, gauge cluster, and boost gauge), headlights, and chasis ar from the neon production line. But the rest of the car has totally different parts from the regular neon. I'm not going to list what has been added but let you read. Here's the link to a very good article on the origin of the SRT-4 and the changes they made from the prototype to the '03 release date to the current '05.http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98857
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Not a bad read.....too bad they killed the best color, to replace it with a s*** stain.VegasMSP said:Hi all! Yes! I made the switch from the MSP to SRT-4 (was having issues w/ the MSP electrical system). And yes I get ragged on by my friends as being on a neon (chasis
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98857
I think you're missing the point, here. Yes, they're both base models w/added s***. The protege looks like something you get at Hertz for the weekend. The neon looks like something your 16yr. old girlfriend got from daddy on graduation day. Thus, when I look at my MSP, I see a rental with a body kit, cool paint job, and a nice set of wheels and tires. When I see an SRT-4, I see a young girl's car with a body kit, plain paint job and a nice set of wheels and tires. So, until they do something to get rid of that smiley face front end, poor body panel alignment, and cheap interior, I'll stick to something a little more masculine. Of course, one man's trash is another man's treasure, I guess. Live and let live.mp5jeff said:
A bit after putting the winter wheels on my msp this year, I found myself at a Dodge lot helping a friend. I decided it'd be fun to test the SRT-4, check it out. Man, that thing goes like a bat outta hell, but man is the handling ever s***! My msp with 16" blizzaks handles significantly better. I always heard they were pretty close, until I test drove it.
But man, it does go. (in a straight line)
I really liked the side bolsters on the seats, but the rest of the interior left a lot to be desired. I liked the fact that they have a boost guage, but everything else feels even cheaper than the msp! The shifter feels like plastic, reminds me of the mazdaspeed miata or the WRX. yuck.
But man, it does go. (in a straight line)
I've followed economy cars for years, and since the start the Neon has been a complete piece of junk. The 323/protege was never a honda civic, but certainly within "buyable" range, whereas it seems like the neons are nothing but endless problems. Don't listen to me, look at consumer reports! If you were going to buy a 14,000 car, would you buy a neon or a protege?
IMO, to get the perfect car, it's going to be easier to buy an MSP and work on the engine to make it as fast as the neon, than it would be to get the neon and work on the suspension enough to make it handle like an MSP. (and you don't have to replace the rest of the interior and buy body kits and such)
And seriously, crank rear windows? (at least they finally have the LSD!)
If you want to go in a straight line, maybe the neon is the better choice, but for fit & finish, reliability, handling, sound system, and unique factor, IMO the MSP wins hands down.
But why are you listening to us anyway? Go test drive one and find out!
But man, it does go. (in a straight line)
I really liked the side bolsters on the seats, but the rest of the interior left a lot to be desired. I liked the fact that they have a boost guage, but everything else feels even cheaper than the msp! The shifter feels like plastic, reminds me of the mazdaspeed miata or the WRX. yuck.
But man, it does go. (in a straight line)
I've followed economy cars for years, and since the start the Neon has been a complete piece of junk. The 323/protege was never a honda civic, but certainly within "buyable" range, whereas it seems like the neons are nothing but endless problems. Don't listen to me, look at consumer reports! If you were going to buy a 14,000 car, would you buy a neon or a protege?
IMO, to get the perfect car, it's going to be easier to buy an MSP and work on the engine to make it as fast as the neon, than it would be to get the neon and work on the suspension enough to make it handle like an MSP. (and you don't have to replace the rest of the interior and buy body kits and such)
And seriously, crank rear windows? (at least they finally have the LSD!)
If you want to go in a straight line, maybe the neon is the better choice, but for fit & finish, reliability, handling, sound system, and unique factor, IMO the MSP wins hands down.
But why are you listening to us anyway? Go test drive one and find out!
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Nicely put. I went to go see one because I was going to trade my wifes Honda in for another car; went by to check them out they looked alright liked the dash and boost gauge and that was about it; I wanted to test drive one just to see what all the hype was all about but didn't feel like talking the annoying sales person, that kept on nagging.
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I test drove one a couple months ago and was totally unimpressed. It rides like crap and shifts like molassas. The clutch is so stiff i felt like i was kicking it instead of pushing it. Also, like most have said, the interior is cheap. The seats are really uncomfotable and the boost gauge is not in a good place. My elbow kept hitting the seat when i shifted. The acceleration is pretty wicked tho. Final answer.....keep the msp.
Oh, c'mon... I went to a car show earlier this year, and in less than 2hrs., someone had already broken off the turn-signal stalk on one of those neons. Also, I've seen alot more complaints on the srt boards about interior noises than I've ever seen here. (Oh, but I forgot...it's faster than the MSP)mp5jeff said:
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