Damn It I Hate Cops!!!!!!

[DeanSweet]

wow, you saw 2 MSP's together. On our frequent trips to Cadillac we rarely see one patrol officer, let alone 2 at once.. Wonder what they were up to?

Sucks about you being pulled over.

 

[ssupra96]

too bad, this started to be an interesting forum, but superman cops came on the scene and started throwing their opinions of what all counties, cities, states, and parishes...lol, are suppose to do. the funny part is, this is a mazda forum. not a chevy, ford, or dodge forum. their just mad that toyotas going to be in nascar...lol!!! cops are good for callin the ambulance when u cant reach the cellphone. as for serving and protecting, 90% of their revenue comes from tickets. they dont go overboard on stopping gangs in the construction field, they dont stop the child molesters in your neighborhood. but let one of their own get hurt, shot, or be in trouble and traffic will stop for miles. they know every loop hole in the legal system, but dont know how to just do their job. there's not much difference between them and a lawyer, matter of fact 50% of them go into law after their term in service because they know the law better then we do. they decided to be officers of the law- notice that word, the law- not loop holes of the law, or ways to bother other people. A cop probably knows how to amend the bible if congress gave them a chance, and then because they added something, well... its the law too. every officer has something better to do than chase someone for tint or a "fart can". I think all anyone can ask from the service of officers is to do the best job they possibly can. if u turn a blind eye to harleys on the regular then its fair to turn a blind eye to tint. their are just as many criminals driving harleys as their are drug dealers hiding behind tint, or driving the import that is louder than than stock. they know how to get the wrong guy, like that guy from canada earlier, but let someone actually do something to another civilian, if its not on tv, or it doesnt have a car involved then it doesnt matter. it happens everyday. sure, their may come a time when we all may need a officer but the chances of that officer needing u 1st, for that new helicopter or that last ticket for their quota is gonna be sooner. so who needs who more, the officer or the civilian? I would say this is just my 2cents, but maybe its worth just a little bit more.

 

[justanotheradikt]

I try not to hate anyone. I feel better that way. Are you saying that it is not against the law to speed in Louisiana? I thought there were laws in every state about speed.

yes i am saying it is not against the law to speed in louisiana. you may learn things about your own state if you read up in the law books...almost nobody knows that in louisiana, but if you are not a driver for hire then they cannot ticket you for speeding. they still do but if you try to fight it in court you can get out of it and they drop the charges.

 

[zsk]

yes i am saying it is not against the law to speed in louisiana. you may learn things about your own state if you read up in the law books...almost nobody knows that in louisiana, but if you are not a driver for hire then they cannot ticket you for speeding. they still do but if you try to fight it in court you can get out of it and they drop the charges.

Ok. I took your advice. Looked up the Louisiana law. Seemed like a good idea. So, here's what I found.

61. Maximum speed limit
A. No person shall operate a vehicle on any highway of this state in excess of fifty-five miles per hour, unless a lower maximum speed is posted on the highway, except as follows:
(1) No person shall operate a vehicle on any interstate or controlled access highway of this state in excess of seventy miles per hour.
(2) No person shall operate a vehicle on any multi-lane divided highway of this state which has partial or no control of access in excess of sixty-five miles per hour.
B. The Department of Transportation and Development shall develop criteria to determine which portions of a highway warrant a speed limit lower than the speed limits established by this Section. The criteria shall be based on an engineering study which shall consider, but not necessarily be limited to, the design speed of the road, the road geometry, the use of land surrounding the road, and the accident history of the road.
Amended by Acts 1964, No. 369, 1; Acts 1974, No. 521, 1; Acts 1977, No. 113, 1, eff. June 22, 1977; Acts 1982, No. 191, 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1983; Acts 1997, No. 1204, 1.

64. General speed law
A. No person shall drive a vehicle on the highway within this state at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and potential hazards then existing, having due regard for the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and the condition of the weather, and in no event at a speed in excess of the maximum speeds established by this Chapter or regulation of the department made pursuant thereto.
B. Except when a special hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with paragraph A of this section, no person shall operate or drive a motor vehicle upon the highways of this state at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.
C. Rolling roadblocks shall be prohibited from operating on all Interstate highways in the state.
Acts 1962, No. 310, 1. Amended by Acts 1982, No. 191, 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1983.


http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=88480

Not sure what to think...........

 

[justanotheradikt]

when i move back to baton rouge after the end of finals week i will go and scan the page that it is on out of the state law books. you are not looking in the correct spots, it the section that talks about CDL drivers and those only applying to cdl drivers.

but then again...why would i waste the time? i think id know a little more about the situation since i have used it to get out of tickets before? but if you want to continue to drag out this argument about a state you dont know s*** about and i live in, then we can.

 

[zsk]

when i move back to baton rouge after the end of finals week i will go and scan the page that it is on out of the state law books. you are not looking in the correct spots, it the section that talks about CDL drivers and those only applying to cdl drivers.

but then again...why would i waste the time? i think id know a little more about the situation since i have used it to get out of tickets before? but if you want to continue to drag out this argument about a state you dont know s*** about and i live in, then we can.

You know what, I don't really care. But, I would really like you to post the info since you have made such a big deal about driving off from Police Officers and flaunting breaking the law. So....If you can please post what you find. What does a Commercial Driver's License (CDL) have to do with it? When should we expect the posting? I know I'll look forward to it. If what you say is true, then I'll look forward to my next trip to Louisiana. Only for the lack of speed limits though. Are you learning anything in school about civil debate of issues?

 

[justanotheradikt]

but in the meantime you forgot to mention the thing about search warrants. your car is considered personal property and unless the cop has a search warrant he is not allowed to search your car or anything of that matter. which is why i was able to pull away from him and him not put me in jail for it. that is the story you called bs on.

personally i dont give a s*** if you believe me or not, i know what i did and my life is no different if you believe me or not. if you want to be e-tough and try to prove me wrong go for it. i was there, i think id know a little more about it than you do. ive also gotten out of countless speeding tickets by going in there and saying there is no way to plea due to it not being a crime, which is why you cannot find the section you are looking for. what you showed was that speeding was a violation of the posted speed limit basically. well yes its a violation but not a crime. if you look at criminal codes it states it not a crime, which is why you can get out of it.

 

[zsk]

but in the meantime you forgot to mention the thing about search warrants. your car is considered personal property and unless the cop has a search warrant he is not allowed to search your car or anything of that matter. which is why i was able to pull away from him and him not put me in jail for it. that is the story you called bs on.

personally i dont give a s*** if you believe me or not, i know what i did and my life is no different if you believe me or not. if you want to be e-tough and try to prove me wrong go for it. i was there, i think id know a little more about it than you do. ive also gotten out of countless speeding tickets by going in there and saying there is no way to plea due to it not being a crime, which is why you cannot find the section you are looking for. what you showed was that speeding was a violation of the posted speed limit basically. well yes its a violation but not a crime. if you look at criminal codes it states it not a crime, which is why you can get out of it.

I don't think we were talking about whether it is a crime, just against the law. Speeding is not usually an infraction that is considered criminal. Just against the law. I guess in all your many years on the earth you have single-handedly managed to beat the Louisiana court system by telling them that it's not a crime? Don't worry, I won't take it personally if you're right and I'm wrong. Why should I? We're just having a discussion. I will wait for a post that contradicts what the law books I referenced.

BTW: Search warrants or permission are pretty standard if the Officer wants to go beyond what is is plain sight or if there are what are defined as "exigent circumstances". The US Supreme Court also said a few years ago that random DUI checkpoints are legal in the United States.

 

[Boosted03MSP]

I will be honest, I try and hold respect for police officers. There are ALWAYS bad apples in the bunch. I live in Baltimore, we have the nations most corupt police dept. I put up with alot. I do NOT street race ever, I think it is retarded and very immature. But having a modified import, I am pulled over alot. Now if I was a fat old man who barely gets laid anymore and was trying to relive my youth in my 71 Challenger, lord knows I wouldnt get pulled over for loud exhaust or underbody lights (hahaha, like i would have them on my car anyways, just a point). I watch classic cars drive around my area all the time, in my 25 years of life, its weird, I have NEVER seen one pulled over. Yes, I know they dont have emissions etc, but I see more of them doing burnouts and fooling around on the road. Either way, I guess it isnt deserved, but a few people ruin it for everyone. Ricers doing flybys and racing and having fart cannons, i guess they see a trend. Just like a young mans insurance is really high, even if at 23 he's never had an accident, because so many early 20's guys wreck their cars.

Anyways to end my rant, that was mostly pointless, dont hate on the police too much, 9x out of 10 you deserve and just want to b**** because you got caught. Window tint, you know its illegal, catback (most of the time illegal for higher db level) lowering in most states = illegal. Crack in the window, duh, you need to fix it. You just got caught, dont b**** just fix it pay it, and move on.

 

[justanotheradikt]

I don't think we were talking about whether it is a crime, just against the law. Speeding is not usually an infraction that is considered criminal. Just against the law. I guess in all your many years on the earth you have single-handedly managed to beat the Louisiana court system by telling them that it's not a crime? Don't worry, I won't take it personally if you're right and I'm wrong. Why should I? We're just having a discussion. I will wait for a post that contradicts what the law books I referenced.

BTW: Search warrants or permission are pretty standard if the Officer wants to go beyond what is is plain sight or if there are what are defined as "exigent circumstances". The US Supreme Court also said a few years ago that random DUI checkpoints are legal in the United States.

yes but cops dont carry around search warrants with your name in their pocket. they have to have one for you specifically in order to search.

and in order for you to be tried in court it has to be a crime. atleast here, thats what the court is for. its not a crimal offense as far as you didnt kill somebody, but to plea guilty not guilty it is a criminal matter. if you look on the docket it would be state/parish/county vs. yourself. there are plenty of dumb things that we do every day that are against some stupid law from way back when, you dont get tried in court because it is no longer considered a crime.

if you just look at it in the point of it just being against the law...does that mean cops are above the law? i can understand if they are going to do some offical work, but i rarely see a cop doing the speed limit. its against the law of speeding for them to speed, but not a crime. there is a very thin line there.