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2003.5 MazdaSpeed Protege
what do you do when it rains? do you take the time to make it an SRI? or just hope you don't suck up a whole lot of water.... i know it takes a LOT of water to hydro-lock your motor, but is just a little spray here and there going to raelly hurt it?
 
well i dont live in the US but the weather around here is pretty much like FL, so during winter i prefer to turn it into SRI....i prefer being cautious
 
just put the filter after the maf and leave it as an sri if you're worried. thats what lots of people are doing including me
 
Normal Weather condition will pose no threat to your engine or its longevity with a CAI.

PERIOD.

If you drive through a 12''+ Puddle..nothing can help you....Stock or not.
 
I have the optional hydro shield on my Injen for that extra piece of mind
 
in my semi cool weather in summer, around 70-85, i always run mine in SRI.. no need for full CAI.
 
Take any IAT readings and compare them to verify?

at 85 it does make a diffrence.. but at 70 and below it doesn'T.. i made numerous test wqith my previous NA car with a short ram and a digital temp sensor IN the air filter..
 
I had my injen as a cai and every once in awhile we'd get a freak rain storm and id suck up a little water but the MAF usually caught and turned on a CEL before it did any damage so id shut it off and take my pipes loose let it drain and eb back on the road in no time. However keep in mind i dont have any splahguards.
 
at 85 it does make a diffrence.. but at 70 and below it doesn'T.. i made numerous test wqith my previous NA car with a short ram and a digital temp sensor IN the air filter..

That was an N/A car...read this:

Dave Coleman @ SCC said:
From issue "10/2005"

Letter titled - "They" say dumb things

Reader question:

I just bought a 2004 SRT-4 and I wanted to change the factory intake. I was thinking about a cold-air intake, but I have heard from a few people that a cold-air will work the same as a short ram because the turbo heats the air to a constant temperature when it passes through anyway. Is this true? If you could give me some advice I would appreciate it. SCC is sick.

Dave's response:

"That hot-air-equals-cold-air theory is a steaming pile of cat poo wrapped in a thin veil of truth. the only true part is the turbo will heat the air anyway. The steaming cat poo comes right about the time "they" start saying the air coming out of the turbo is the same temperature regarless of the temperature going in."
"In the simplest terms, the air temperature actually increases a fixed amount going through the turbo. So if the turbo normally sucks in 60-degree air and spits out 160-degree air, sucking in 100-degree air will make it spit out 200-degree air."
"In reality, it's slightly worse than that. Actual temperature change across a compressor can be calculated with this arcane formula:"

Temperature Rise = (Tin*[pressure ratio^0.238 -1])/Compressor efficiency

"To make the arcane formula work you have to use absolute temperature on the Rankine scale for the inlet temp, which means you take Fahrenheit and add 460 degrees. So 60 degrees F is 520 degrees R."
"Pressure ratio is absolute pressure (boost plus 14.7 psi atmoshperic) divided by atmospheric pressure. So if you run 14.7 psi of boost, the pressure ratio will be 2.0. Let's use that 'cause it's easy. Then let's use 0.73 as the compressor efficiency, since I was born in 1973."
"In that particular case, the arcane forumla insists that air will come out of the turbo 128 degrees hotter than it went in (for a total of 188-degrees F). Now, if we increase intake air temperature to 100 degrees, the temperature rise is 138 degrees (again, a total of 238 degrees F). Air in went up 40 degrees, air out went up 50 degrees."
"In other words, cold air is important in any car, but it's even more important on a boosted one."
Phew - that was long, but sums it up, no?
 
what do you do when it rains? do you take the time to make it an SRI? or just hope you don't suck up a whole lot of water.... i know it takes a LOT of water to hydro-lock your motor, but is just a little spray here and there going to raelly hurt it?

i just dont drive through giant puddles...you arent going to hydrolock your car unless the filter gets submerged...I mean its pretty well covered in the wheel well...
 
I had my injen as a cai and every once in awhile we'd get a freak rain storm and id suck up a little water but the MAF usually caught and turned on a CEL before it did any damage so id shut it off and take my pipes loose let it drain and eb back on the road in no time. However keep in mind i dont have any splahguards.

damn why not? I had mine off for a few days once and a rock got shot through one of my radiator fans and blew a hole in it causing my car to barf all it's coolant.
 
i drop mine to an sri for the winter,i also have no splash guards i actually have no plastic (headshake)
 
I dont have any because i took them all off to install my fmic and got to lazy to put them back on, its been over a year and we dont get much rain around here usually, plsu i have it converted to an sri now and i made a ghetto-mcguyver-esque rain gaurd for the filter out of half of a gallon milk jug.
 
Get a procharger (air filter sock). You can order them from Injentechnology.com for about $30. It will protect your car from splashes, but don't expect to be able to drive it through a lake. I just ordered one myself because I always say "it's better to be safe than stupid".
 
I made my injen a SRI permanently, not because i was afraid of hydrolocking but because i was tired of how much of a PITA it was to get to and clean the filter....

I noticed 0 change going from CAI to SRI....the intercooler is there to cool the air charge anyways and no matter if its a few degrees cooler coming in, its still getting heated up by the turbo...
 
I made my injen a SRI permanently, not because i was afraid of hydrolocking but because i was tired of how much of a PITA it was to get to and clean the filter....

I noticed 0 change going from CAI to SRI....the intercooler is there to cool the air charge anyways and no matter if its a few degrees cooler coming in, its still getting heated up by the turbo...

Did you read post #12?
 

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