2016~2023 CX-9 Adjustable rear camber arms?
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Well update. Got them to work. Like I think if I had slammed my car, it would have been an issue with the length. I the car on Ceika Coilovers on 285/45 r22's Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActives, so I guess the car is lowered, but i'm not sure by how much compared to something like the corksport springs, since I have a small gap, but fatter tires.
I had to do some shenangians with the arm. The bolts for each end are m14. The holes without the lil cone at 9/16ths. The problem I ran into was getting an adapter from 9/16ths to m14. The ones that come with the arms are 9/16th's to m12. Theres one British company who refuses to ship to the US right now that makes them. I ended up getting some m14 cone washers from Replacement Cone Washers. I also got some m16 to m14 sleeves from Whoops, we couldn't find that..
I hammered the sleeve into the hole on the arms, put the cones on either side. I dropped the subframe (this was so painful to get the the inner bolt), and got both ends attached. Depending on how bent these things are you may need some m14 washers to fill space or to take the place of a cone. In my case i used 7 cones with a washer stack to make it fit appropriatley without play.
I used the adjustability to match the OEM arms and it worked with some room to spare. After installing, I took it for alignment and I got pretty damned closed to 0 rear camber vs just over 2 percent prior.
I had to do some shenangians with the arm. The bolts for each end are m14. The holes without the lil cone at 9/16ths. The problem I ran into was getting an adapter from 9/16ths to m14. The ones that come with the arms are 9/16th's to m12. Theres one British company who refuses to ship to the US right now that makes them. I ended up getting some m14 cone washers from Replacement Cone Washers. I also got some m16 to m14 sleeves from Whoops, we couldn't find that..
I hammered the sleeve into the hole on the arms, put the cones on either side. I dropped the subframe (this was so painful to get the the inner bolt), and got both ends attached. Depending on how bent these things are you may need some m14 washers to fill space or to take the place of a cone. In my case i used 7 cones with a washer stack to make it fit appropriatley without play.
I used the adjustability to match the OEM arms and it worked with some room to spare. After installing, I took it for alignment and I got pretty damned closed to 0 rear camber vs just over 2 percent prior.
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N7turbo
2023 CX-5 2.5T ... 2024 MX-5 RF GT
I'd like to know how the Ceikas ride and handle compared to the OEM dampers. And how did you configure them on the website?
I like the idea of the Cx-9 being more of a wagon than an SUV, so to me the Ceikas ride better. I actually had a recent issue where my tires lost grip on a 90deg turn and i basically guillotined the underside of my car on a curb... (2 wheels broke, one ceika BBK caliper was ripped apart, both front coils bent) and the body shop was so annoying cause they didn't inspect the car properly, so I ordered 1 coilover and not 2, and this was over a month into repairs... so I had the OEM struts at home and told them to put those on cause I was tired of waiting. I hated the OEM ones, and as soon as the second coilover arrived, I wasted no time putting them on. The OEMs feel like truck suspension. My pops actually just bought a Cx-50, and I can say they feel similar as I drove that for a few days while visiting.
The ceikas are pretty stiff due to whoever makes their springs. I chose comfort config from their site and told them I wanted to lower my car by whatever corksport said they lowered the car by with their lowering springs. They asked me what range I wanted on the lift/lower, I said OEM to whatever Corksport said they lowered the car by on their lowering springs. They told me I needed assist springs in the back, but I ended up just putting the assist spring directly into the barrel spring provided without the lil spacer that lets you adjust the height. When I used all 3 components the car sat way too high. I think the shocks provided are pretty good.
However, I thought their front coils were transmitting too much jolt when I hit a bump, but the car handled well. They said their spring rates were 8k/10k front/rear. I think their springs are actually stiffer, so they feel like a 9k/11k. This time around since I had the coilovers already off the car, I changed the front spring on the coilovers to 9k swift springs with swift assist springs. Swift springs feel 1k less, and I think I hit the sweet spot. I love the way the car feels now. The only change I would make is getting 11k swift barrel springs for the rear, but that doesn't seem possible. I actually have the corksport springs on hand and was thinking about trying to fit them in, but my rides so good right now, that I have no motivation. the 11k swift spring rear would be like a minor upgrade.
The ceikas are pretty stiff due to whoever makes their springs. I chose comfort config from their site and told them I wanted to lower my car by whatever corksport said they lowered the car by with their lowering springs. They asked me what range I wanted on the lift/lower, I said OEM to whatever Corksport said they lowered the car by on their lowering springs. They told me I needed assist springs in the back, but I ended up just putting the assist spring directly into the barrel spring provided without the lil spacer that lets you adjust the height. When I used all 3 components the car sat way too high. I think the shocks provided are pretty good.
However, I thought their front coils were transmitting too much jolt when I hit a bump, but the car handled well. They said their spring rates were 8k/10k front/rear. I think their springs are actually stiffer, so they feel like a 9k/11k. This time around since I had the coilovers already off the car, I changed the front spring on the coilovers to 9k swift springs with swift assist springs. Swift springs feel 1k less, and I think I hit the sweet spot. I love the way the car feels now. The only change I would make is getting 11k swift barrel springs for the rear, but that doesn't seem possible. I actually have the corksport springs on hand and was thinking about trying to fit them in, but my rides so good right now, that I have no motivation. the 11k swift spring rear would be like a minor upgrade.
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As for ceika, I have a whole BBK set up from them front and back, and their suspension parts. Their customer service rep is in France, and he's awesome. Jean-loup Leufrançois is his name. Even if you place an order, he's gonna talk to you about what you want and what they can offer. Your price can either go up (something like well since you put on 22 inch wheels, then you need the bigger rotor/brake caliper) or down (What you're looking for is kind of excessive since you don't need assist springs in the front). I beleive everything is manufactured in Taiwan, but for whatever reason, this guy communicates with Taiwan very well. I actually got those spring rates and spring lengths from Francois. He apparently managed to contact Taiwan and get me the measurements within 24 hours. He also managed to get my replacement parts ordered within 24 hours as well. The break down was the shop telling me only the front left coilover was bent and them not even checking the right one until they installed the left one.
N7turbo
2023 CX-5 2.5T ... 2024 MX-5 RF GT
Thanks for the detailed response.
Wow, those are high rates. I know they will be higher compared to the CX-5, but my plan for the CX-5 was 4k/6k.
Also, I do not believe that a swift spring will feel different than another spring. Spring rate is spring rate.
Wow, those are high rates. I know they will be higher compared to the CX-5, but my plan for the CX-5 was 4k/6k.
Also, I do not believe that a swift spring will feel different than another spring. Spring rate is spring rate.
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Ceika seems like a very good company in general, allowing such customization and providing plenty of support before and after the sale. I've emailed with Jean-loup before when I first came across the Ceika coilovers and every question I asked was answered in great detail.
Can't wait to see how the car looks once you've got everything installed. I'm interested to see the rear camber arm modifications.
