poseur try the foil, ive always used just tape as well, used the foil this time and it pulled out of the mold so easily and i could just peel the foil off the backside of the kicks without much work at all. was well worth the extra minute or two adding the foil in.Poseur said:I've just never bothered with foil, but I DO put a piece of string behind my molds, so that I've got something to pull 'em out with. When I first did my sub box, It was a REAL pain in the ass just with the tape. But do the same thing wiht a piece of string wrapped around behind the tape, and it's supersimple..