Confused about Engine mangement systems

[StreakinOraNgeX]

I'm confused as to why mostly everyone is into the mpi tuner or unichip. Doesnt the mpi tuner do the same thing such as super afc or greddy e-mangage units? Why would somebody lay down 900 dollars for a unichip when they can get a greddy or apexi unit for under $400?From what I hear the mpi tuner is pricey too...what gives

 

[Dexter]

because the apexi afc units have not been fully proven to work. the emanage also needs more info /people using it before it becomes fully acceptable.

 

[StreakinOraNgeX]

oic

 

[Striker187]

plus with the afc, it only controls fuel, not timing. with the others, you can control both.

 

[NoVaMSP]

UC is plug and play and can be retuned by a pro and taken out and returned to stock easily it is a little expensive 875$ + 200 if you wanted custom maps
mpi tuner can be tuned at home but will require a little more install (hardwire) and is also pretty expensive actually if you were to get there maf and had it pro installed and tuned your talking about 1200$
i dont know alot about emanage but i hear its got alot of options+ may require trick install . and can be tuned at home or by a pro
the afc has been around for a while but doesnt have alot of options when compared to the others also may require a couple tricks to get it to work and can be tuned at home

i bought the unichip because i wanted plug in fix for alot of the issues the car has
also i dont know how well i could tune on my own , and decided that reguardless of what system i chose i would leave the tuning to the pros - it does work great and if you added up the cost of having the other systems tuned by a pro they come pretty close in price .
my second choice was the MPI . alot of members are having great results with it
it was a little more $$ then i wanted to spend and didnt trust my self with the install/ tune.

 

[1FASTMSP]

i will be tuning the emanage as soon as all my parts come in, also, orangezoom is already running it problem free, i will do a complete how-to once i start everything...

 

[Striker187]

hurry up, someone's gotta take discreet's place while he's down

 

[CONEH8R]

Unichip isn't bad, but they have a few bugs that needs to be ironed out in my opinion. Right now the MPI software is the best option for a full tune. Unichip is good if you don't want to be able to tune. MPI is what i'm going with. It's not that expensive if you do just the software, if you add the extra injectors and such, it can get over $1k in price. All the bigs dogs are tuned with MPI from what I remember. Really depends on your end goal.

 

[jrodhotrod]

Don't forget about the Haltech E6X

 

[FC3s Boy]

yep the haltech is proven to work well, but not for a novice tuner

 

[1FASTMSP]

hurry up, someone's gotta take discreet's place while he's down

all i am waiting on is parts, then its go time...

 

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

Aem

What about the AEM?

 

[WillisW555]

What about the AEM?

I didn't know that there was still someone doing the AEM. That was supposed to be around $1,500, PnP, and self learning over time.

 

[Bigg Tim]

Unichip isn't bad, but they have a few bugs that needs to be ironed out in my opinion. Right now the MPI software is the best option for a full tune. Unichip is good if you don't want to be able to tune. MPI is what i'm going with. It's not that expensive if you do just the software, if you add the extra injectors and such, it can get over $1k in price. All the bigs dogs are tuned with MPI from what I remember. Really depends on your end goal.

RIGHT!!! There is a speed in Canada with 1 xtra injector and at 8psi and put over 240whp down. He put down 230whp with no xtra injector. Can't beat 230whp for less than 800 bucks!!! It is not for someone who does not want to tune, but if you want to control timing and fuel, it is the best bang for the buck and the support is the s***!!!

 

[Puckpimp71]

If you're a novice tuner, there's really little risk in choosing the MPI over the Unichip as maps and tuning help are available from more experienced forum members. The only reason I'm thinking about the Unichip over the MPI is that I don't have much time for my car and it's PnP so I can jump to stock. I think that for the money and performance, MPI is a better deal.

 

[spacemonkey]

yup cuz the only EMU proven to work with our cars are Unichip and MPI tunner. There is also AEM standalone. Some have gotten Emanage to work.

Unichip is probally the most hassel free just PnP.

 

[wicked]

I am definetly going with the MPI but I have questions about it that know one has answered.
can I tune with a apple laptop?
is there some pics of whats involved?
cost?
where can I get it?What options can I purches with it (ie,new maf,injectors)or do I have to find these else where?
can I switch between MAP's while driving w/out a laptop?


just a few

 

[jrodhotrod]

yup cuz the only EMU proven to work with our cars are Unichip and MPI tunner. There is also AEM standalone. Some have gotten Emanage to work.

Unichip is probally the most hassel free just PnP.

Again, the Haltech works, and works well. But I'll agree with Chris from SPD, it's not for the novice.

In order from easiest to most difficult it would be: Unichip, MPI, Haltech (the AEM and Emanage are still somewhat un-proven, but in theory whenever one of the vendors gets the AEM out and widely available it will be plug and play as well)

 

[orangezoom]

Again, the Haltech works, and works well. But I'll agree with Chris from SPD, it's not for the novice.

In order from easiest to most difficult it would be: Unichip, MPI, Haltech (the AEM and Emanage are still somewhat un-proven, but in theory whenever one of the vendors gets the AEM out and widely available it will be plug and play as well)

You know I am getting a little tired of this unproven stuff, I have had my, Emanage on for a year, How long have you had your haltech? I have had this on longer then any other engine management.

 

[Dexter]

You know I am getting a little tired of this unproven stuff, I have had my, Emanage on for a year, How long have you had your haltech? I have had this on longer then any other engine management.

Yah, dude, its unproven.

OTHER people have tried the emanage and failed. Untill we can get a consistant number of people using the same system, i'd still chock it up as 'unproven'

If you had your emanage on for a YEAR, you sure didnt post about it.

The Haltech WORKS 100% for sure: the F10X is used by HiBoost in thier turbo kits.