Cobb or CP-E Nano?

[DaleNixon]

From another thread:

I just got my hks intake but I haven't installed it yet. It looks really nice, and inside the filter cage it has plastic fins (they call it "super inner frame") that has the same function as the "air straightner" that everyone is so excited about. I will write a review when I install it this weekend.

So it sounds like I'm in the clear with the HKS.

 

[john blutarski]

From another thread:



So it sounds like I'm in the clear with the HKS.

HKS makes great products. I'm sure you'll be happy with it.

 

[DaleNixon]

That's what I've heard. Thanks!

 

[Circle9]

I just ordered the CP-E Nano from Street Unit, they said I should be able to get it by next Friday or so!

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

Post up pictures when you get it! CP-E and dryflow, may be the most economical option for me.

 

[Circle9]

Will do! What should the next performance mod be, besides a short shifter?

 

[desperado-c]

Will do! What should the next performance mod be, besides a short shifter?

Mid-pipe, if you're talking power mods. Great sound and noticeably more power.

 

[desperado-c]

From another thread:



So it sounds like I'm in the clear with the HKS.

Looking at the hemispherical shape of the filter, it may well incorporate a velocity stack for air-straightening. CP-e sawed their AFE filter in half to show how it incorporates a v-stack.

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

I would stay away from exhaust mods. These cars don't tend well to exhaust modifications. Just because it has a turbo doesn't mean its going to act like all turbo cars. Our turbos don't like to maintain proper oil circulation with after market exhausts. So get the mid pipe if you want oil smoking through your exhaust.

 

[desperado-c]

I would stay away from exhaust mods. These cars don't tend well to exhaust modifications. Just because it has a turbo doesn't mean its going to act like all turbo cars. Our turbos don't like to maintain proper oil circulation with after market exhausts. So get the mid pipe if you want oil smoking through your exhaust.

Mid-pipe cat delete has not been known to result in smoke as far as I know. It doesn't really reduce the restrictiveness of the exhaust per Cobb. And the primary cat is still there to burn up any oil that might get into the exhaust. Do you have any examples of posts about smoking mid-pipes?

 

[Circle9]

A midpipe for the MS3 deletes the 2nd cat, right? Why not just get a DP-back exhaust?

I also want an exhaust that will show some gains, but won't be too loud.

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

I lost track of how many people did minor or major exhaust mods and ended up with smoking turbos.

It's already known that our cars are "special". We have special sized tires, special electrical nannies and yes, special turbos. So, although the typical rule of "minimizing backpressure as much as possible" will apply to normal turbo cars, our cars don't typically like losing too much back pressure, or losing the cats that are already installed. And it's already been proven that those cats typically catch what oil is already being let through the system.

Long and short of it is, if you don't want any dealership drama, don't do any exhaust mods. I had a healthy debate with a friend of mine on this forum about exhaust mods and the "turbo revision". The turbo isn't even revised, it's just a seperate part # to keep track of the old and new turbo replacements. It's typical with auto manufacturers when a problem is deemed defective. Until Ford starts having their winning bidder Honeywell (aka Garrett) start developing turbos for their EcoBoost engines (DISI turbo'd engines), then MAYBE I can believe they'll start swapping Mazda defective turbos with appropriate replacements. But by then, Ford may not have any association with Mazda..

 

[desperado-c]

A midpipe for the MS3 deletes the 2nd cat, right? Why not just get a DP-back exhaust?

I also want an exhaust that will show some gains, but won't be too loud.

CBE + mid-pipe would get you only a couple more hp over just mid-pipe. No matter how free-flowing the CBE, it doesn't seem to do much beyond changing the sound.

 

[john blutarski]

Well I said screw it and ordered the mid pipe last night. I'll keep the stock down pipe but either way I've read of bone stock cars smoking so if it happens its going to happen regardless. For me at least my car is still what I consider to be easy and quick to revert back to stock if needed.

 

[desperado-c]

I lost track of how many people did minor or major exhaust mods and ended up with smoking turbos.

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That's the thing, I'll bet there are no more smoking turbos with just the mid-pipe (which can be fairly easily swapped back out b/f going to the dealer) than there are smoking turbos with just an intake mod. I would even argue that there is a benefit to the 2nd cat delete in that you are lowering Back Pressure-to-Boost ratio at least a little and thereby reducing pre-turbo EGTs at least a little

DP is another story. Especially catless, it so much less restrictive that you have boost cut and other issues b/c our "special" (tiny) turbo is spinning a lot more freely and potentially beyond its design parameters.

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

I'd just rather not deal with it personally..or if I do decide on exhaust, i'll end up with the MS exhaust.

Modding and de-modding, adding and removing, a lot of work just to spend money and get nothing for it lol.

 

[desperado-c]

I'd just rather not deal with it personally..or if I do decide on exhaust, i'll end up with the MS exhaust.

Modding and de-modding, adding and removing, a lot of work just to spend money and get nothing for it lol.

You definitely get something for your time and trouble, but I agree it's pretty subjective. For me, personally, I get bored and need a change. It's kinda like buying something sexy for the wifey. Whether she looks great naked or not, the right negligee can add a lot to the mix.

Hey, maybe somebody ought to start marketing sexy garments on these forums and pitch them as "mods" for the GF/wife.

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

With me, in reference to the car, the peace of mind is worth it. I definitely get bored but a new video game, or perhaps detailing the car can fix that. Getting bored with a car can be financially deadly. And the drama that can ensue is more of a waste of time than it's worth.

I had my fair share of modding, de-modding, warranty drama, car problems. To me, everyday the car is functioning soundly while letting me still enjoy it's speed and power is worth it's weight in gold. If I'm bored and start spending money on mods, only to have new issues arise then i'm visiting the dealer often, having to de-mod often, that $100-$300 mod turns into one gigantic headache. Regardless of my car having a warranty, the less I visit the dealer, the BETTER. My cowl rattles, I had them order the new insulated tabs, I still haven't went back in to have it fixed. It's almost too inconsistent of a rattle for me to bother gambling with them fixing the issue, only for it to happen again only 10x worse.

But I won't be a hypocrite, I definitely love modding, and can't wait to get SOME intake, whether it's either of the ones mentioned in this thread or a CAI.

 

[Circle9]

I understand all the headaches and money involved when it come to dealerships and warranties, but I have a short commute and I don't drive it hard at all.
So, any pointers on a DP-back exhaust that will remain relatively quiet?
I've also heard of a tune or chip that raises the stock boost pressure up to 18psi, how much does that cost?

 

[desperado-c]

I understand all the headaches and money involved when it come to dealerships and warranties, but I have a short commute and I don't drive it hard at all.
So, any pointers on a DP-back exhaust that will remain relatively quiet?
I've also heard of a tune or chip that raises the stock boost pressure up to 18psi, how much does that cost?

Cobb's CBE is about as quiet as stock even with their DP which has a hi-flow cat. So I imagine that with a mid-pipe it might even be quieter.

As far as chips and tunes and raising boost, that is a huge topic that you need to do a lot of research on b/f you buy anything. Your engine is at stake when you screw with any of that. Start with CP-e and Cobb and work your way out to the couple of reflash options that seem to come and go.