Cobb AP - No Dyno = Fail

The Cobb AP is not meant to get huge improvements in 1/4 mile times; if you're getting it for that, not such a good idea.

I owned two Subarus before the MSP3; a 2004 WRX and a 2005 STi. Had Cobb stage 1 93 octane tune in both, and the "qualitative" benefits mentioned earlier were really what I noticed. A little more power on the dyno, but a greatly smoothed out boost curve and an overall feel that was more like a strong V6 than a turbo four. I'm hoping for the same with the new AP!
 
why isn't there 1 solitary dyno up in here yet? lame.

its not our job to buy the unit and then dyno it and then subject it to your opinion. I have an ap and i'm satisfied with the improvement, i don't need a piece of paper to tell me that or to sell people on the idea.
 
unoriginal what mods are you running with the ap. Mine comes in tomorrow and I am going to run it with the ms cai. All the problems people are having is making me nervous though. Were you able to download your stock map onto the ap without a problem.
 
unoriginal what mods are you running with the ap. Mine comes in tomorrow and I am going to run it with the ms cai. All the problems people are having is making me nervous though. Were you able to download your stock map onto the ap without a problem.

CPE TBE with an extra resonator welded in, Cobb SRI intake. Running AP Stage 2 with no issues. It has stutured in 4th twice which i understand from the cobb forums can happen if your plugs aren't gaped to 0.3...

I didn't download my stock map, i was too impaitent after the long wait lol

thanks for the comments on the wheels, yes they are powdercoated ms6 rims
 
I hope those qualitative improvements are significant. If you do the math, the map for use with an aftermarket intake ups the overall power by about the same gain you get from adding the intake.
What bugs me is that I can't even find 91 octane around here, so I have no choice but to use 93.
How about a 93 octane map? That should squeeze another couple of ponies out of the car.
 
They are coming out with a 93 map soon along with a MS CAI map.I hope its out before my 30 day trial is up.I wont get my AP till tuesday or wednesday.
 
I'm running stage 2+ with 92 octane, MS CAI, MS CBE, cp-e DP w/cat, PG Manifold, custom turbo inlet, and Forge BPV with green spring. I let the ECU adjust a night and day before getting on it. AFR's look good, knock is 0.0 all the time and boost spikes are reduced A LOT! Power is smooth. Dyno is planned within a week.
 
I'm running stage 2+ with 92 octane, MS CAI, MS CBE, cp-e DP w/cat, PG Manifold, custom turbo inlet, and Forge BPV with green spring. I let the ECU adjust a night and day before getting on it. AFR's look good, knock is 0.0 all the time and boost spikes are reduced A LOT! Power is smooth. Dyno is planned within a week.

Very interested to hear how things go for you as you have a very similar setuip to what I will have when I get around to ordering my AP.
 
By the way, stock map download went flawlessly and took about 30-45 min. Not really sure how long it took, cause my buddy and i were talking cars all night.
 
They are coming out with a 93 map soon along with a MS CAI map.I hope its out before my 30 day trial is up.I wont get my AP till tuesday or wednesday.

Also, the ECU will probably adjust to a certain degree without having specific maps for 93. Less knock will allow other parameters to become more aggressive. Another reason to go easy on it for a couple of days.
 
if i buy the cobb ap does it comes with the maps already in it or do i have to download the maps from the website.
 
Its better to run 93 even if the map is for 91. More protection against knock so you should not be looking for lower quality gas.
 
I agree, although, please understand that we made significant qualitative improvement in the calibrations and the only way for some to describe how the vehicle drives is by qualitative rhetoric (language), driving quality impressions, etc. Qualitative data has not not been set up for easy quantitative analysis so the only way to describe some things will be by describing butt dyno impressions or driving quality impressions. I and many others thought the car was very jumpy with the stock tune and we spent extensive time smoothing things out...I don't know how else to describe it.

Christian.[/t
the front wheel is where it's at.gotta be reading those egt's and a/f #'s(guitar)
 

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