Christians

[LinuxRacr]

I'm in Christ. I'm about the relationship with God, and the truth, not the man-made religious stuff. Nuff said.

To elaborate more on this:

If you go back and read the Bible, being in Christ (the original discipleship) wasn't about any type of denomination. It was simply a relationship with God. Along comes man and decides that we need different denomimations because I don't agree with Joe Shmoe over there. Leave it to mankind to always phuck up a good thing. Where would we be with the Lord!?

 

[dmurphy10]

I am a Catholic convert, but I believe that sprituality transcends religion. My philosophy has caused me to be booted from a few non-demonational churches. But I figure that my salvations is between me and the big guy, not some sunday morning, overly dramatic preacher.

 

[loj68]

To elaborate more on this:

If you go back and read the Bible, being in Christ (the original discipleship) wasn't about any type of denomination. It was simply a relationship with God. Along comes man and decides that we need different denomimations because I don't agree with Joe Shmoe over there. Leave it to mankind to always phuck up a good thing. Where would we be with the Lord!?

But the bible IS "man made religious stuff".

 

[Darin]

To elaborate more on this:

If you go back and read the Bible, being in Christ (the original discipleship) wasn't about any type of denomination. It was simply a relationship with God. Along comes man and decides that we need different denomimations because I don't agree with Joe Shmoe over there. Leave it to mankind to always phuck up a good thing. Where would we be with the Lord!?

What you just said is completely contrary to the Bible.

The bible ENCOURAGES gatherings/fellowship/congregation.

There is nothing wrong w/ different denominations, either. There are certain aspects of Faith people interpret different ways, but if the church you frequent preaches:

1. Christ's Virgin birth, death, resurrection
2. Christ being the ONLY path to God
3. Christ being fully human and fully God

then you should be okay. Most denominational differences stem from beliefs on speaking in tongues, 'once-saved, always saved', water baptism, etc - things which have NO affect on somebody's salvation (for lack of a better term).

 

[LinuxRacr]

......... my salvations is between me and the big guy, not some sunday morning, overly dramatic preacher.

(werd)

 

[Darin]

But the bible IS "man made religious stuff".

Start your own thread...kay? This isn't a debate on the validity of the Bible as being inspired by God...this is a thread where people of like/similar faiths can post up.

I challenge everyone to NOT give in to his baiting-into-an-argument tactics.

 

[LinuxRacr]

What you just said is completely contrary to the Bible.

The bible ENCOURAGES gatherings/fellowship/congregation.

There is nothing wrong w/ different denominations, either. There are certain aspects of Faith people interpret different ways, but if the church you frequent preaches:

1. Christ's Virgin birth, death, resurrection
2. Christ being the ONLY path to God
3. Christ being fully human and fully God

then you should be okay. Most denominational differences stem from beliefs on speaking in tongues, 'once-saved, always saved', water baptism, etc - things which have NO affect on somebody's salvation (for lack of a better term).

You totally took what I said wrong. There is nothing wrong with denominations until someone starts believing that what denomination they belong to is what gets them salvation.


1. Right
2. So correct! Not even 5 million hail marry's (whatever that is) will get you there...
3. There ya go. The only man to walk totally by faith and fullfil the prophecy.

I believe that once saved, always saved. That's what Christ died on the cross for. It's a done deal. All you have to do is accept his forgiveness and by faith, you are saved. Now comes the lifetime battle with the flesh, and the renewing of your mind.

 

[Darin]

You totally took what I said wrong. There is nothing wrong with denominations until someone starts believing that what denomination they belong to is what gets them salvation.


1. Right
2. So correct! Not even 5 million hail marry's (whatever that is) will get you there...
3. There ya go. The only man to walk totally by faith and fullfil the prophecy.

The problem is, people often use this argument and, "I don't need church because it's full of man-made policies" as an excuse to avoid God all-together.

 

[LinuxRacr]

The problem is, people often use this argument and, "I don't need church because it's full of man-made policies" as an excuse to avoid God all-together.

I feel ya man. go back and read my post reply again. I just added some stuff.

 

[Darin]

I feel ya man. go back and read my post reply again. I just added some stuff.

I still am not sure which side of the fence I'm on in that regard. If you accept Christ, then go back to your same lifestyle, I doubt you really accepted Him. Maybe you did, I dunno.

It's a tough call; I'd suggest just making sure you are living a humble life. Be a servant to Christ and others...that sorta thing.

 

[LinuxRacr]

But the bible IS "man made religious stuff".

It's an account of history, and works inspired by God.

 

[LinuxRacr]

I still am not sure which side of the fence I'm on in that regard. If you accept Christ, then go back to your same lifestyle, I doubt you really accepted Him. Maybe you did, I dunno.

It's a tough call; I'd suggest just making sure you are living a humble life. Be a servant to Christ and others...that sorta thing.

If my mom didn't have my bible right now with all my highligted stuff, I would be better equipped to clear this up.

 

[Darin]

It's an account of history, and works inspired by God.

Don't feed him bro - really. this thread isn't the place. I'd wager 'online' isn't the place.

 

[Darin]

If my mom didn't have my bible right now with all my highligted stuff, I would be better equipped to clear this up.

I'm not sure you could...I've read most scripture on the subject. It's just not something I've cared enough about to form an opinion.

 

[loj68]

Start your own thread...kay? This isn't a debate on the validity of the Bible as being inspired by God...this is a thread where people of like/similar faiths can post up.

I challenge everyone to NOT give in to his baiting-into-an-argument tactics.

Don't be dumb....I wasn't baiting....I was pointing out that he contradicted himself. I don't see you beating on those who are discussing the validity of the different denominations....and I wasn't even going there to take that discussion in the validity of religion in general.

 

[Midnight22]

i was raised catholic, now i have my own personal beliefs, never really got the church thing, felt like i was in a battle with other churches, so i try to do what i feel is right, i also take from confucious buddism and the otehr s, respect for the self mind body, makes sense ya know?

one of my ex's was a mormon, she wanted to get married in the temple and wanted me to convert, i didnt want to and we got into a fight, so we broke up

 

[Darin]

Don't be dumb....I wasn't baiting....I was pointing out that he contradicted himself.

here you go...

If I were a moderator, I'd delete your posts in this thread.


Don't be dumb? Your very presence in this thread, with those remarks show that you are simply trying to stir up s***.

Look son, If you'd like a debate, start a thread: "Was the Bible simply written by MAN, or was it God-inspired?"

As I said, your comments are NOT 'on topic' and seem quite intent on causing trouble.

I ain't mad atcha - just asking for your consideration in not sending this thread straight to the toilet.

Thanks for your consideration.

 

[LinuxRacr]

I still am not sure which side of the fence I'm on in that regard. If you accept Christ, then go back to your same lifestyle, I doubt you really accepted Him. Maybe you did, I dunno.

It's a tough call; I'd suggest just making sure you are living a humble life. Be a servant to Christ and others...that sorta thing.

I can say this. Before the new covanent that went into effect (Christ nailed to a cross) every year the High Priests of the 12 tribes would go into a special place in the temple to make attonemnet for the sins of the people by sacraficing an animal. It says only blood can attone for sins, and there it was. The only problem was that as soon as that was over, it was back to business as usual, and folks were still condemned. The 10 commandments had more than one purpose.

1. Lay down the law for the people of God.
2. A roadmap to Christ. In other words, you would see that there is no way you can keep the commandments, because if you break one, you may as well have broken them all! So you would see the need for Christ. Name one person who kept the commandments? There was only one. Christ. And he was the only worthy sacrafice for the sins of man. The blood of bulls and goats couldn't attone (sp) for our sins, but the blood of Christ did, and totally! It's up to the individual to accept this forgiveness by faith. Faith is the key. When we are weak, it is only the Faith that can sustain us.

 

[Darin]

I can say this. Before the new covanent that went into effect (Christ nailed to a cross) every year the High Priests of the 12 tribes would go into a special place in the temple to make attonemnet for the sins of the people by sacraficing an animal. It says only blood can attone for sins, and there it was. The only problem was that as soon as that was over, it was back to business as usual, and folks were still condemned. The 10 commandments had more than one purpose.

1. Lay down the law for the people of God.
2. A roadmap to Christ. In other words, you would see that there is no way you can keep the commandments, because if you break one, you may as well have broken them all! So you would see the need for Christ. Name one person who kept the commandments? There was only one. Christ. And he was the only worthy sacrafice for the sins of man. The blood of bulls and goats couldn't attone (sp) for our sins, but the blood of Christ did, and totally! It's up to the individual to accept this forgiveness by faith. Faith is the key. When we are weak, it is only the Faith that can sustain us.

I'm not sure that addresses how one can accept Christ - later to Reject His offer?

But thanks - discussion such as this should only stimulate our thoughts (although in a way different than your avatar ) and help us grow! (Yet again, in a way different than your avatar, lol! )

 

[LinuxRacr]

Think of it this way....If someone rejects Christ, were they really in him in the 1st place?