Can we keep Mazdaspeed related videos here? (reasoning within)

[InsidiousMSP]

I noticed moderators are moving posts with videos of Mazdaspeeds to the Photo/Video forum. I think video & photo posts should remain here because:

a.) Discussions can be formed in these particular posts relating to the Mazdaspeed (a great example is 505's BOV video post that turned into an exchange of information and ultimately solved many BOV issues).
b.) Mazdaspeed owners come to this section to see pics/videos of other Mazdaspeeds.
c.) I don't think many people want to sort through pics/videos of someones Spec V, or 92 Protege LX (no offense to anyone), in order to find Mazdaspeed media.

I personally think it's rediculous. Why even have a Mazdaspeed specific forum if 90% of the topics can be moved to another section (performance, appearance, pics/videos, etc)? It's preventing discussion and making it hard to find topics Mazdaspeed owners are interested in.

HERE'S AN IDEA, if you're really interested in keeping things difficult but making sense at the same time: Split the Mazdaspeed section up, into "Mazdaspeed Performance," "Mazdaspeed Photos/Videos," etc. I know the other Proteges share many of the same parts as the MSP, but they do have different setups that require specific information. Makes sense to me...

(hand)

 

[SP33D]

agreed.

 

[boostisgood]

TECHNICALLY, those BOV vids SHOULD have gone into the Forced Induction Section. IMHO.

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

guess not...

 

[03MSP]

agreed...that didn't take long to move.

 

[Vulcanon]

you guys are so silly, you DO realize that with the same logic a p5 video goes in the p5 section, mp3 in the mp3 section etc...thus eliminating the need for organization with this section

 

[low_psi]

there will be no split.

 

[1sty]

THis is a protege site, not an MSP site. IF you want to aviod all content about other models then by all means start your own BBS.
Otherwise put in the text of "Mazdaspeed" when doing a search. It won't hurt, I promise.

 

[PhreakV]

good, I'm glad that it won't be split...
it takes all of 30 seconds to do a search of the entire site for videos of your mazdaspeed... this board is segregated enough to accomodate most if not all of the needs.

 

[1sty]

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/sea...d=277032&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

Enjoy

 

[scott42]

no other section has had these 'problems' with the current organization, and they've been here for at least 18months longer. (shrug)

 

[InsidiousMSP]

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/sea...d=277032&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

Enjoy

It's not like I go looking for Mazdaspeed videos, but it's nice to come across them when I'm in the section for my car.

It just doesn't make much sense. Give me one reason why it's better to mix every generation and model Protege together. Really interested in understanding your logic.

I also administrate a forum, with 37,900 members. That's about 30,000 more than this forum. So don't think I'm clueless about moderating & maintaining a forum. We have established sections related to performance & modifications for each generation. It works out perfectly this way. This is just one example of logical organization.

Before you tell me, "good for you," don't assume I posted this for the sole reason of bashing you. I'm simply giving suggestions that make sense to me, has been a proven solution for others, and will actually make it easier for you.

 

[1sty]

Your explaining your intentions to the wrong person. I in no way feel you are bashing me or anyone and yours as is everyones opion is welcome, however it should be posted in the site feedback section to be taken seriously.

Its better becuase if you want to see a video you know to go to the one section and all you have to do is type your search text in and BANG you got what you need. If I need to find a video and I can't remeber the model of car, then per your method I am basicly screwed and will be searching for a while as there will be 5 different areas it could be in. Per this way I know at very least that I am getting video threads and not 300, "whats a flash" threads.

NOw, as I have said many times before, I don't see a need or a use really for seperate model sections if they have no subsections. It cuases more confusion then its worth.

To me you either organize the board primarily by topic or model, We kind of dance between them. The rational reason I can see for this is to provide a better sense of Protege and now Mazda community, not just MSP community.

If you enjoy what little videos may be posted int he MSP section then why not just come to this section and see the vids that everyone with various modles are posting. Why make the MSP distinction.

I agree as we grow this structure will be grown out of, what to do about that is another topic on its own though.

 

[II-Savy]

Don't even bother using logic, no one gets it. People know this is not an MSP site. It a site with all different mazda information all jumbled up into 4 or 5 areas, totally retarted. Now one will read or look at these when they get moved, Good try.

 

[1sty]

Again if you have suggestions then the admins are always listening for opinions and ideas.

Be constructive though. Calling the current structure "totaly retarded" won't get you to far.

Also the other members here have been finding and using this section to great sucess for over 2 years now. If you want all related to MSP info in one section thats fine, its just not the wya this site is or probably ever will be setup. That decision rests on Enry and Antonie as the owners. If you really want something like that then with all seriousness start your own site.

 

[SpicyMSP]

UG I moved the MSP videos. 2 in particular. If anyone wants to see just photos/vidoes, they know where to go. ... The photo/video gallery. Thats what its for, and for organizational reasons, I think that forum should be used as such. If you wanted to post a topic in the MSP section about the video, with specs and information....and a link to the video in the photo/video section, that would be fine to stay. But since it is just a video, it should go in the video/photo gallery of our forums.

If I was a moderator of any of the other sections, such as the p5 or Mp3 forums, I would have moved the videos also. Its really hard to please everyone, when we get hassled for the MSP forum beeing too cluttered with things that dont belong. But someother members are saying that it does belong there, it is really up to the discression of the moderators, and where they think it is best suited to redirect it or leave it.

 

[SpicyMSP]

I would like to agree with 1rst Mp3 in NH, when you post a video in the Photo/Video forum.. title it "msp.....blech blah", or "mazdaspeed video". That should be easily enough noticed by any member who is interested in finding a MSP video. Or a search for MSP video, i'm sure will find many great results.
Also as I suggested above, if there is more content then just the video, and the post is not titled "blah video blah". Such as info, specs, review, suggestions, expirence with product, and how that particular car is with the modification. Then It should stay, with a link to the video posted in the photo/video forums. Hope all this makes sence.

 

[II-Savy]

"Again if you have suggestions then the admins are always listening for opinions and ideas."

Already done that - Does no good

"Be constructive though. Calling the current structure "totaly retarded" won't get you to far"

It is totally retarted, complete unorganization. Every other forum I have been to has been broken down into logical sections.
Every car should have it's own "video" section. There should be a miata video section, a Mazda6 video section and so on. This makes things easier to find. Searching brings up too much.

"But since it is just a video, it should go in the video/photo gallery of our forums."

This is fine, no one will see it now.

"interested in finding a MSP video"
You shouldn't need to do this, all you shold need to do is go to MAZDASPEED then to VIDEOS.

Guys just go and look at the vote for this, it's obvious every section needs sub catagories, not everything lumped together. Sheesh.

 

[1sty]

Already done that - Does no good

Try staring a reorganization thread. In the correct section, being help/feedback.

It is totally retarted, complete unorganization. Every other forum I have been to has been broken down into logical sections.
Every car should have it's own "video" section. There should be a miata video section, a Mazda6 video section and so on. This makes things easier to find. Searching brings up too much.

It is decently organized for the purpose of a protege community and not an MSP only community.

It only makes things easier to find if you are only concerned with a mazdaspeed and even then simply typing in mazdaspeed in the search will make things just as easy.

"But since it is just a video, it should go in the video/photo gallery of our forums."

This is fine, no one will see it now.

Incorrect, now many more people will see it and the only ones that wont are those insistant on not venturing out of the MSP section.

You shouldn't need to do this, all you shold need to do is go to MAZDASPEED then to VIDEOS.

That is one way of doing it. However it does not make finding an MSP video any easier and it makes finding a video with a car you don't remember damn near impossible. Considering the trade off, typing "Mazdaspeed" is alot easier.

Guys just go and look at the vote for this, it's obvious every section needs sub catagories, not everything lumped together. Sheesh.

What votes?
Is there a poll about this?
Can you please post a link?

Not everything is lumped together, simply different car models (which are all virtualy the same) are "lumped".

 

[mp5jeff]

try typing in mazdaspeed for a video in the mazdaspeed section, then try typing in mazdaspeed in the photo/video section, hmmmm i bet it will be alot easier to find the video you are looking for in the photo/video section if you arent too lazy to search