Can we get KpaBap out of Purgatory w/poll

[noclue119]

Well here is my proposed soultion to you.

Keep them in Purgatory, however let them post to the regular section but only with apporvals from a mod. You know create a few Purgatory Mod in which all their job to do is to approve the post of people currently in Purgatory. I mean honestly Super Matty P and KpaBap has given great feed back to the commmunity. Granted their way of expressing may not be so great by they have good knowledge never the less. As for PDHAudio83 how many other protege owners out there are pushing the limits like he is. If you want Proteges to be a good tuner car down the road people like PDHaudio is needed to show the world what protege are able to do.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

As for PDHAudio83 how many other protege owners out there are pushing the limits like he is. If you want Proteges to be a good tuner car down the road people like PDHaudio is needed to show the world what protege are able to do.
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if only you knew the 100% story behind that car...

the person responsible for that vehicle is Beau at mental addiction. period. Beau's skill, Beau's money, Beau's work, Beau's time, Beau's sweat and tears, etc. if nothing else, beau has saved pat from his own potential mistakes time and again. if you want the knowledge and tuning authority to make a car like pat's, pat is not the person you need to be calling for that.

that said, this forum is privately owned. it is not protected by first amendment laws. its rules and processes are not dictated by popular majority. and as dana said, everytime popular majority has swayed or made a decision in this regard, the results have not been positive. go to any other forum, any other car forum. you will be guaranteed to find that the moderators there are no where near as kind or forgiving, nowhere near as lenient, and that far less rambling and off topic threads are allowed. most forums out there are "all business". if you think there is no freedom at msprotege, we are all far better off here than many other forums. a thread like this would not even open any longer at another site, the mods would have shut this down FAST.

i am not saying i agree with all the members who are in purgatory (i do not) but i also recognize the fact of the matter - if the forum were a brick and mortar building, the owners would reserve the right to kick us off the private property whether we like it or not. i guarantee you taking a public poll in a situation like that would not make a bit of difference.

 

[Kooldino]

Well here is my proposed soultion to you.

Keep them in Purgatory, however let them post to the regular section but only with apporvals from a mod.

That's not a bad idea, per say, but you're talking about 50 or so posts a day that would have to be reviewed. That's a lot of work for someone who displayed why they don't deserve to post in the first place.

You know create a few Purgatory Mod in which all their job to do is to approve the post of people currently in Purgatory. I mean honestly Super Matty P and KpaBap has given great feed back to the commmunity. Granted their way of expressing may not be so great by they have good knowledge never the less.

Hmm. I'll have to think about this. I'd have to include some kind of rule that if they were trying to make frequent bad posts, we'd just flat out deny them from trying to post anymore.

As for PDHAudio83 how many other protege owners out there are pushing the limits like he is. If you want Proteges to be a good tuner car down the road people like PDHaudio is needed to show the world what protege are able to do.

People like Beau are pushing the limits. PDH had his car built for him.

 

[Kooldino]

Well put, Ken.

 

[noclue119]

well yes Beau is doing great work on pushing the limits of the protege. But without national wide exposure of project cars, all that knowledge and work is nothing.

Marketing is a key part of any successful business, thus PDHAudio should be given credit for at least marketing the products from Beau.


On a different note 10 post a day that needs to be modded if u have 4-5 Prug mods that is not bad at all. I personally would not mind approving 20-25 posts a day. That takes what 10 mins out of my time?

Anyways hopefully we can work something out where these people are allowed back into the community

 

[noclue119]

With regard to the topic being lock. yes it contrvisal but sometimes it takes something drastic to get things change. Just because it is commonly accepted does not mean it is right or the norm.

I would like to point to the Civil Rights movement as an example. It took someone/some group to do some drastic to get a result that they wanted. Granted i am not a fan of volience, but i am a fan of working toward a soultion in which people can co-exist peacefully. That is the main reason why i made this thread. It is not to push someone's buttons but to bring a soultion to the matter at hand.

 

[iLisa]

i'm interested to see what the mods say... *subscribes*

 

[Kooldino]

On a different note 10 post a day that needs to be modded if u have 4-5 Prug mods that is not bad at all.

They'd have to be 4-5 active, regular, consistent purg mods. That's hard to find.

Would any current mods here like to be a Purg mod?

 

[noclue119]

They'd have to be 4-5 active, regular, consistent purg mods. That's hard to find.

Would any current mods here like to be a Purg mod?

Like I said if there needs to be I'll help out with being 1 of the mods. I'm usually online enough to approve post. Anyways just see your reactions to the whole thing

 

[iLisa]

I can be a mod if need be..

 

[Kooldino]

With regard to the topic being lock. yes it contrvisal but sometimes it takes something drastic to get things change.

When I see people being extreme or drastic, it has the opposite effect on me. It makes me question the mental stability of the person.

I would like to point to the Civil Rights movement as an example. It took someone/some group to do some drastic to get a result that they wanted.

Terrorism is another extreme example. So was that "social cleansing/slaughtering" of the Slovs (or whoever it was) a few years back. So was the Holocaust.

Granted i am not a fan of volience, but i am a fan of working toward a soultion in which people can co-exist peacefully. That is the main reason why i made this thread. It is not to push someone's buttons but to bring a soultion to the matter at hand.

That's fine, but the people who are in Purg are there for a reason. If they were that concerned with co-exsisting peacefully, they would have never ended up there.

 

[noclue119]

Well good to know I'm crazy. Now that i think about it, I am a little crazy. But that is not the point.

Like i said i'm not a fan of voilance, terrorism is a form of volience, i'm tryign to do thing via peaceful way.


The point here is not that they are here because they can't co-exsist peacefully, the point here is that I rather have them in the community giving out useful information with someone watching their back rather to ensure peace than them posting under other names or having other memebers post their comments for them.

If they want to post on teh board, they can and most likely will be able to find a way around every post of obstile you put up for them.

 

[apocman]

dam just free the guys all, but that one who ripped a vendor off!!! I don't like thieves, but crazy assholes I can deal with and the KPABAP guy he was just ******* Funny!!! (sorry forgot to add the funny part first post)

I remember the Banana song !!!

 

[peepsalot]

KPABAP was just ******* who?

 

[jersey_emt]

KPABAP was just ******* who?

Not the right people, apparently.

 

[jersey_emt]

Here's my $0.02:

It's actually quite hard to get a punishment more severe than a 1-day ban here. You have to repeatedly break the rules, and repeatedly get warned for doing so. I am unsure of the specifics as to why some people are even in Purgatory, but that doesn't matter. I know that each of them did something wrong, and an administrator or group of administrators have decided that Purgatory was the proper punishment.

Every single time a member is punished, everyone comes out of the woodwork and tries to get that punishment rescinded. Let me tell you that it hasn't, and it won't, work. You are just wasting your time.

Purgatory is a temporary punishment, but the length of that punishment is variable. When the admins feel a member is 'ready' to be let out, they will do so. Not before, and especially not because people outside of the situation are complaining about it.

 

[anarchistchiken]

When I see people being extreme or drastic, it has the opposite effect on me. It makes me question the mental stability of the person.

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but how was Matty saying "Buy my supercharger" extreme or drastic? I know you've said before that he's also in there because drama seems to follow him like a clous, but 90% of it is not his fault, and I have trouble seeing what is extreme or drastic on his part about people following him from thread to thread starting s***.

That's fine, but the people who are in Purg are there for a reason. If they were that concerned with co-exsisting peacefully, they would have never ended up there.

As the argument goes, for the last couple months before Matty got sentenced to purg, he was being very good and trying to co exist well, but people kept starting s*** with him. I just think it's about time this silliness ended.

 

[noclue119]

Every single time a member is punished, everyone comes out of the woodwork and tries to get that punishment rescinded. Let me tell you that it hasn't, and it won't, work. You are just wasting your time.

Hopefully ideas and improvements can be made such that I am not wasting my time trying to improve the community

 

[Prodigy]

Hopefully ideas and improvements can be made such that I am not wasting my time trying to improve the community

Well said.

 

[jersey_emt]

How is it 'improving the community'? As far as I'm concerned, people who *repeatedly* break forum rules despite multiple warnings from staff members should be left in purgatory until the administrators agree that he or she is ready to come back and join the rest of us. The fact that those who break the rules ARE in purgatory improves the community.

Your idea sounds great in theory, but like Kooldino said, it is going to be extremely hard to find enough people dedicated to solely reviewing the posts of people in Purgatory. IMO you need more than 4-5 'Purg Mods' to make your idea work well, as this forum is a very active and fluid one...having someone make a post only to have it approved hours later simply won't work. I would put the number up to at least 7-10 people who's sole job is to mediate the troublemakers. I just don't see that happening...I can't see that many people actually wanting that job. Plenty of people will say 'oh I can do it', but actually finding people who WILL do it is the hard part.