Bush invokes 9/11 to argue for Iraq war

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WASHINGTON - President Bush is invoking the memory of Sept. 11 to defend the war in Iraq, drawing protests from Democrats who say he politicized a national day of mourning.

In a prime-time speech broadcast on Monday's anniversary of the terror attacks, the president described a brutal enemy still determined to kill Americans, perhaps with weapons of mass destruction if they get the chance.

"If we do not defeat these enemies now, we will leave our children to face a Middle East overrun by terrorist states and radical dictators armed with nuclear weapons," Bush said. "We are in a war that will set the course for this new century and determine the destiny of millions across the world."

I guess Bush missed the memo that Iraq/Saddam had no connection to 9/11 and Al Queda...cocksucker

More;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060912/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush
 
Bush missed a lot of things, like common sense, common decency ~ I could go on for a while on this . . .
 
MSpeed68 said:
I think Bush was right about what he said, we need to get control of the middle east, quickly...
you are missing the point. He is POLITICIZING 9/11.
 
Redskins = Deadskins

On topic: It was just a few lines of the speech. I don't think it was inappropriate at all but on the other hand he would have done without it.
 
MSpeed68 said:
I think Bush was right about what he said, we need to get control of the middle east, quickly...
Therein lies the problem, my friend. How can we simultaneously say "get control of the Middle East", and "spread democracy in the Middle East". Are those who are under foreign control capable of having a true democracy? What kind of conundrum is this?

Native Americans used to say of this doublespeak, "He speaks with forked tongue".
 
Just thought about that last post of mine . . .

Forked tongue in the Bush . . .

Shoudl be enough to drive the women wild.
(laugh)(laugh)(laugh)(laugh)(laugh)
 
G-Papi said:
Therein lies the problem, my friend. How can we simultaneously say "get control of the Middle East", and "spread democracy in the Middle East". Are those who are under foreign control capable of having a true democracy? What kind of conundrum is this?

Native Americans used to say of this doublespeak, "He speaks with forked tongue".

By get control I think he means stabilize the situation to the point where the Iraqis can defend themselves and sustain their democracy despite insurgent attacks. Also I don't think that it will be a western style democracy there.
 
Iraq is full of muslims and arabs, there's a connection.
We now have a 170,000 square-mile aircraft carrier called the USS Iraq sitting right in the middle of the mideast, next door to Iran which may have to be struck next, and next door to Syria where the muslims were acting up this morning and attacking U.S. Marines at the embassy.
I just hope he doesn't pull any troops out of Iraq, Iraq should be a permanent US airbase sitting right there in the middle of the muslim world for centuries to come.
For psychological reasons alone it is great to have our Air Force there, to have the muslims know that the same folks who turned Hiroshima and Nagasaki into total destruction sites are now only an hour away from Mecca, Medina, Tehran, Amman, Damascus and loads of other muslim breeding grounds.
I like when he invokes 9/11 in Iraq discussions, I don't differentiate between the 9/11 muslim hijackers and any of the muslims in Iraq or Syria or in Dearborn, they're all reading from the same Koran.
 
Minivanhunter

And you will go sit in the sandbox when?????

btw ~ What the hell is a Muslim breeding ground?

I don't differentiate between the 9/11 muslim hijackers and any of the muslims in Iraq or Syria or in Dearborn, they're all reading from the same Koran.

I'll not dignify your implied and occasionally explicit racial, religious, or cultural bigotry and ignorance any further.
 
G-Papi said:
Minivanhunter

And you will go sit in the sandbox when?????

btw ~ What the hell is a Muslim breeding ground?



I'll not dignify your implied and occasionally explicit racial, religious, or cultural bigotry and ignorance any further.


Wow...I guess he just thinks Muslims in general are bad people. Neat.
 
MinivanHunter said:
I like when he invokes 9/11 in Iraq discussions, I don't differentiate between the 9/11 muslim hijackers and any of the muslims in Iraq or Syria or in Dearborn, they're all reading from the same Koran.

That makes you a bigot and a racist. Congrats!(first)
 
While I don't agree with the teachings of Islam, I think that there are peaceful Muslims who want nothing more than any other religious person would want. The freedom to practice their religion without it being hijacked by the radicals among them. Problem is those moderate muslims need to SPEAK UP!!!!! and denounce the actions of their radical bretheren.

As a Christian I will tell you LOUD AND CLEAR that:

1. Anyone who blows up abortion clinics and shoots abortion doctors is not a Christian and should be punished to the full extent of the law

2. Fred Phelps is a complete Moron


and so on and so forth. I hold firm in my beliefs but I will stand up and denounce those who would try to hijack it for hateful purposes.
 
1killercls said:
Wow...I guess he just thinks Muslims in general are bad people. Neat.


You tell me if they're bad or not......



Most Notable Islamic Terror Attacks

1968
June 5 - U.S. presidential candidate Robert Kennedy murdered by Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan, in Los Angeles, which causes further terrorist attacks, as Arab terrorist groups demanded his release.

1969
Feb. 18 - Boeing 707 attacked at Zurich, Switzerland, killing the pilot and 3 passengers.
Aug. 29 - TWA 707 hijacked from Rome to Damascus, released with only wounded.
Nov. 27- El Al office in Athens, Greece attacked. Innocent bystanders killed.

1970
Feb. 21 - Swiss airliner blown up over Switzerland, killing all 47 people on board.


Feb. 23 - PLO terrorists open fire on a busload of Christian pilgrims killing 1 and wounding 2 Americans.
April 21- Bomb explodes aboard a Philippines airliner. All 36 aboard are killed.

Sept. 6 - "Skyjack Sunday" in Jordan. 3 planes (TWA, Swissair, Pan Am) en route to the U.S. hijacked, 400+ hostages, planes blown up in Jordan, Governments agreed to PFLP's demands, released terrorists from jails and hostages released.

Sept. 14 - The PFLP hijacked TWA flight to Ammon, 4 Americans injured.

1971
Nov. 28 - Jordanian prime minister Tal killed by terrorists at the Sheraton Hotel in Cairo, Egypt.
Dec. - Jordanian ambassador to London, England is shot by hit squad.

1972
Jan. 26 - Bomb explodes on a Yugoslav plane killing all but one passenger.

May 30 - Ben Gurion Airport, Israel attack killed 26, and wounded 78 U.S. citizens from Puerto Rico.
Sept. 5 - Palestinian terrorists seize 11 athletes in the Olympic Village in Munich, Germany, 9 hostages and 5 terrorists killed, plus David Berger from Cleveland.

1973
March 2 - Khartoum, Sudan. Cleo Noel, Jr., U.S. ambassador, and George C. Moore, U.S. diplomat, were held hostage and then killed by terrorists at the U.S. Embassy.


Aug. 5 - Suicide squad attacks Athens airport, Greece, killing 3 civilians and injuring 55.


Dec. 17 - Bomb explodes at Pan Am office at Rome, Italy killing 32 and injuring 50+. The terrorists take 7 Italian policemen hostage and hijack an aircraft to Athens, Greece, killing one of them.

1974
March 1 - Diplomats taken hostage from Saudi Arabian Embassy in Khartoum, Sudan, 2 that are killed are American's.


April 11 - Kiryat Shmona Massacre at an apartment building killing 18 people, 9 were children.

Sept. 8 - Athens, Greece. TWA Flight 841 exploded from bomb in cargo hold, all 88 passengers killed, including 32-year-old Steven Lowe, an American citizen.

Nov. 23 - British DC-10 hijacked at Dubai, UAE, flown to Tunisia where a German passenger was killed.

1975
Jan. 19 - Arab terrorists attack Orly airport, Paris, France, seizing 10 hostages from a bathroom. French provided the terrorists with a plane to fly them to safety in Baghdad, Iraq.


Sept. 30 - Hungarian airplane explodes killing all 64 persons on board.

Dec. 21 - Carlos "The Jackal" holds 11 oil ministers and 59 civilians hostage during the OPEC meeting in Vienna, Austria. Flew to Algeria, got $300,000,000 in ransom money, Carlos and his Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terrorists escape.

1976
Jan. 1 - 82 innocent travelers are killed aboard a Lebanese plane.


June 27 - Air France airliner hijacked, forced to fly to Uganda. Some 258 passengers and crew are held hostage. 3 passengers killed. July 4th, Israeli commandos rescue the remaining hostages.

Aug. 11 - Terrorists attack Istanbul airport, Turkey, killing 4 civilians (1 from U.S.) and injuring 20.

Dec. 4 - Terrorists occupied the Indonesian Embassy in The Hague, Netherlands, 1 official killed.

Dec. 14 - Passenger train hijacked and passengers were kept hostage, 3 were killed.

1977
Jan. 1 - F.E. Melov U.S. ambassador to Lebanon, and Robert O.Waring, the U.S. economic counselor, kidnapped and later killed in Beirut.


Oct. 13 - Palestinian terrorists hijack a Lufthansa Flight 181 Boeing 737 and order it to fly around a number of Middle East destinations for four days, pilot is killed by the terrorists, 90 hostages rescued.

1978
March 11 - Gail Rubin, niece of U.S. Senator Ribicoff, among 38 people shot to death by terrorists on a beach near Tel Aviv.


June 2 - A bomb kills 2 people at the CHOGM meeting in Sydney Australia.

1979
July 29 - Terrorist bombs two railway stations in Madrid, kills 7.


Nov. 4 - Terrorists seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and took 66 American diplomats hostage. 13 freed, but the remaining 53 were held until their release on January 20, 1981 - 444 days - at the inauguration of President Ronald Reagan.

1980
April 30 - Terrorists took over the Iranian Embassy in London, holding 26 hostages, 2 of whom died on May 5th after being tortured. Much of the embassy was destroyed by fire.


1981
April 19 - 13 people killed, 177 injured in a terrorist attack in Davao Philippines.


May 13 - Pope John Paul II seriously wounded in assassination attempt in Rome, Italy, by terrorist Mehmet Ali Agca.

Oct. 6 - Egyptian President Anwar Sadat machine gunned dead by Islamic Jihad in Cairo for working for peace. 7 others killed, 28 wounded. The assassins are later executed.

1982
Beginning of the 8 years of terrorism in Lebanon.


July 19 - David Dodge, President of the American University in Beirut kidnapped, spends one year in captivity.

Aug. 19 - Two American citizens, Anne Van Zanten and Grace Cutler, were killed along with 6 others when the PLO bombed a Kosher restaurant in Paris, France.

Sept. 14 - Lebanon's President Gemayel and 26 others assassinated by a massive car bomb in Beirut.

1983
Mar. 16 - 5 Marines wounded in hand grenade attack on Beirut International Airport.


April 18 - CIA's Middle East Director, and 83 others are killed, 120 injured in truck bomb on the US Embassy in Lebanon.


Sept. 29 - Gulf Air Flight 771 is bombed, explodes killing all 166 aboard.


Oct. 23 - Simultaneous suicide truck bombs in Lebanon: 1st crashed into lobby of US Marine Corps Headquarters, 241 Marines dead, 82 seriously injured - and 2nd was French compounds killing 58 paratroopers.

Dec. 12 - US Embassy in Kuwait targeted to destroy the building with a truck bomb, attack foiled by guards and the device killed 5 people and injured 80.

1984
Jan. 18 - Malcolm Kerr, President of the American University of Beirut, was killed by two Hizballah gunmen.


Mar. 8 - Rev. Weir and wife kidnapped in Lebanon and held for 16 months.

Mar. 9 - Car bomb kills 80 (22 Americans) and wounds more than 200 civilians when it drove past the checkpoint at the U.S. Embassy in Awkar.

Mar. 16 - Hizballah kidnapped, tortured and killed William Buckley, an officer at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut.

Apr. 12 - Hizballah bombed restaurant adjacent to US Air Force base in Torregon Spain, 18 servicemen killed and 83 Americans wounded.

Sept. 20- US embassy in the Beirut is bombed - 2 servicemen and 23 employees are killed, 21 Americans injured including the U.S. and British Ambassadors. 50+ Lebanese were injured.

Dec. 4 - Terrorists hijacked Kuwait Airlines Flight 221 and demanded the release from Kuwaiti jails of some members, serving sentences for attacks on French and American targets. 2 Americans murdered.

1985
March 16 - US journalist Terry Anderson kidnapped in Lebanon, finally released in Dec. 1991 - 6 years later.

April 5 - Bomb explodes outside Hezbollah headquarters in Beirut killing 80 people.

April 12 - Bombing of U.S. soldier's favorite restaurant in Madrid, killing 18 and injuring 82.

June 14 - TWA Boeing 727 Flight 847 hijacked en route to Rome, 8 crew and 145 passengers were held for 17 days, U.S. Navy diver was murdered. After being flown twice to Algiers, the hostages were released after the US pressured to release 435 Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners.

Sept. 30 - Four Soviet diplomats kidnapped in Lebanon, 1 killed but other three released unharmed after a relative of the terrorist leader's was kidnapped and killed by the Soviet KGB.

Oct. 7 - Terrorists seize the Italian cruise liner, Achille Lauro, during a cruise in the Mediterranean, taking more than 700 people hostage for 3 days. Disabled U.S. citizen, Leon Klinghoffer, was murdered in front of other hostages by throwing him in the ocean, before the Egyptian Government offered the terrorists safe haven in return for the hostages' freedom.

Nov. 23 - 98 passengers and crew of an Egyptair Flight 648 are held hostage by Palestinian terrorists in Malta. 5 passengers shot, 2 died, later 57 additional passengers killed when the terrorists set off explosives in the aircraft.

Dec. 27 - Suicide grenade and gun attacks in passenger terminals at Rome and Vienna, Italy airports results in 16 people being killed plus 5 Americans and more than 100 civilians injured.

1986
March 30-April 2nd - A bomb exploded on a TWA flight 840 from Rome as it approached Athens airport. The attack killed 4 U.S. citizens who were sucked through a hole made by the blast, 1 infant, and 9 injured, although the plane safely landed.

April 6 - An explosion at the "La Belle" nightclub in Berlin, U.S. soldiers' hang-out, was bombed, killing 3 and injuring 230 people, including 79 U.S. soldiers.

Sept. 5 - Pan Am Boeing 747 Flight 73 en route to Frankfurt and on to New York hijacked by Palestinian terrorists, with 379 passengers, including 89 Americans, 22 hostages killed, 127 wounded.

Sept. 9 - Hezballah kidnapped Frank Reed, President of American University in Beirut, and held for 44 months, and Joseph Cicippio, and Edward Tracy who were each held for 5 years.

Sept. 17 - A 10-month series of terrorist bomb attacks in France begins. One bomb in Paris kills 5 and injures 52.

1987
A car bomb exploded outside the back gate of the U.S. Embassy in Rome and rockets were fired at the compound from across the street. One passerby was injured in the attacks.

1988
Feb. 5 - US Marine Corps Lt. Colonel Higgens, Chief of the U.N. Truce Force kidnapped and murdered by Hezbollah.

March 16 - 4000+ Kurdish civilian bodies found after Saddam Hussein ordered nerve gas attack (weapon of mass destruction) in northern Iraq, after they revolted against his rule from Baghdad. 1.5 million relocated, 200,000 disappeared.

April 5 - 122 held hostage after a Kuwaiti Boeing 747 was hijacked and diverted to Iran, then Cyprus. Kuwait refused requests by hijackers to release 17 convicted terrorists. After 15 days the hijackers were granted asylum in Algeria and released their hostages.

June 26 - US Naval Attach killed in Athens, Greece.

Dec. 21 - Pan Am Flight 103 - Boeing 747 from London to New York, blown up over Lockerbie, Scotland, by a bomb. All 259 passengers and 11 on the ground were killed, including 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel.

1989
June 12 - A bomb exploded aboard an unoccupied boat used by U.S. consular staff.

Sept. 19 - 171 passengers killed when French UTA flight 772 explodes in mid-air over Niger.

October 11 - Izmir, Turkey. A bomb went off outside a U.S. military PX.

1990
Feb. - Attack of tour bus in Egypt killing 11.

1991
Feb. 7 - Incirlik Air Base, Turkey, U.S. civilian contractor shot as he was getting into his car.


Oct. 28 - Ankara, Turkey. Victor Marwick, an American soldier serving at the Turkish-American base, Tuslog, was killed and his wife wounded in a car bomb attack.

Oct. 28 - Two car bombings killed a U.S. Air Force Sergeant and severely wounded an Egyptian diplomat in Istanbul.

Nov. 8 - Bomb destroyed part of the American University in Beirut, killing 1 and wounding 12.

1992
March 17 - Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires, Argentina, destroyed by bomb killing 29, injuring 60.


Hotel in Yemen bombed and U.S. servicemen killed, Operation Restore Hope.

1993
Jan. 25, Virginia, U.S.A. A Pakistani terrorist opened fire with AK-47 on CIA employees standing outside the building. Two agents, Frank Darling and Bennett Lansing, were killed and 3 others wounded.


Feb. 26 - World Trade Center in New York badly damaged by a massive bomb by Islamic terrorists. The van bomb was planted in an underground garage and left 6 people dead and 1042 injured and almost ? billion dollars in damage.

Feb. 26 - A bomb exploded inside a caf in downtown Cairo killing 3, 18 wounded, 2 U.S. citizens.

July 5 - In 8 separate incidents, 19 Western tourists traveling in southeastern Turkey were kidnapped, including U.S. citizen Starger, after weeks in captivity, they were released.

Oct - Killing of U. S. soldiers in Somalia.

1994
July 18 - 86 civilians killed and 300 wounded in bomb attack on Jewish social centre in Buneos Aires, Argentina.


July 26 - Israeli Embassy in London is car-bombed, wounding 20.
Air France Flight 8969 is hijacked to crash the plane in Paris but didn't succeed.

A small bomb explodes on board Philippine Airlines flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman.

1995
Jan. 22 - Islamic Jihad militants blow themselves up amid a group of soldiers near Netanya, killing 21. Operation Bojinka is discovered on a laptop in a Manila, Philippines apartment, in which Osama bin Laden was planning to blow up 12 planes as they flew to the U.S., plus kill the Pope.


March 8 - Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan.

April 9 - Islamic Jihad suicide bomber attacks military convoy in Gaza, killing 7 soldiers and an American tourist.

May 5 - Five foreign oil workers murdered by Islamic GIA terrorists in Algeria.

June 26 - Assassination attempt made against Egyptian President Honsi Mubarak by Islamic radicals who ambushed his motorcade.

July 4 - Six tourists, including two U.S. citizens taken hostage in Kashmir, India. Terrorists demanded the release of Muslim militants held in Indian prisons. On Aug. 13 the decapitated body of the Norwegian hostage was found with a note stating that the other hostages also would be killed if the group's demands were not met. They were not and all other hostages were killed in 1996 by the terrorists.

July 25 - Islamic terrorists explode bomb in metro station in Paris, France, killing 7 people and injuring 84.

Nov. 13 - Car bomb exploded at US Army Office of the Program Manager for Saudi Arabian National Guard Modernization, in Saudi Arabia, killing seven, five of them U.S. citizens, and wounding nearly a hundred.

Nov. 19 - Islamic radicals plant bomb in Egyptian embassy in Pakistan killing 17.

Dec. 11 - 15 concurrent car bombings in Algiers kill 15 civilians and over 200 injured.


that above list only goes up until year 1996, the list of muslim activites over the past 10 years is even longer and more deadly...
 
Minivanhunter . . .

I said I wouldn't dignify this any further but . . .

Um, (he thinks, and rubs his chin) lemme see . . . (he thinks deeper, and rubs his shaved head) . . . as a Methodist . . .

Should I begin with the Crusades, or the Inquisition, or slavery??????

Awww . . . I don't have propoganda and talking points lined up to cut and paste . . . didn't go to the skinhead meeting where they were passed out.

What the hell,

If all you hear is a fart, It's probably only an asshole speaking.
 
G-Papi said:
Should I begin with the Crusades, or the Inquisition, or slavery??????

Ah, it was the crusades and slaves who attacked the US Embassy this morning and who opened fired at the Jewish community center in Seattle two months ago?
(huh)
 

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