Nope, PCV is good like I thought... This stuff is going somewhere! No puddles on the ground, 200 psi compression across all four cylinders; I'm stumped! The only weird thing is my oil pressure always seems to be low - no matter how full my oil is. Can the oil pump go bad??
burning oil like crazy... wtf?
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Had the turbo inspected by someone who I will not mention here and he assured me the turbo was within decent limits. He said it was leaking a small amount of oil but he couldn't see that causing so much consumption. I really don't mind having to add oil every now and then - it's the low oil pressure that bugs me. I don't see a leaky turbo causing such a drop. Would this be a sympton of a failing oil pump? How would one inspect their oil pump too?
Mine was definitely 5Yr 100K but that's 100K KM not miles, this translates to about 62K miles. This is powertrain only...
how would a failing oil pump burn oil and make your exhaust smoke??? I mean come on people.
Please read the earlier post and go from there, then come back with actual results to contribute (preferably with a service bill for prof).
oil blowing out the turbo seals is a common prob. Its easily testable. 1) check right after the turbo in the hard pipe before the intercooler if dry then go to step two, if wet with oil and its obvioulsy before your crank case valve then its your turbo seals. 2)Check in front of the turbo in the exhaust mani if its wet then its in yer motor, if dry then check after the turbo if wet then its your turbo.
any more common sense can be had by simply removing your head out of your ass.
Please read the earlier post and go from there, then come back with actual results to contribute (preferably with a service bill for prof).
oil blowing out the turbo seals is a common prob. Its easily testable. 1) check right after the turbo in the hard pipe before the intercooler if dry then go to step two, if wet with oil and its obvioulsy before your crank case valve then its your turbo seals. 2)Check in front of the turbo in the exhaust mani if its wet then its in yer motor, if dry then check after the turbo if wet then its your turbo.
any more common sense can be had by simply removing your head out of your ass.
I don't have any smoke - at least not much. The oil pump question was concerning my really low oil pressure. But thanks anyway for explaining something I already understand. I have done all of those many times. There is a little soot at the first hot pipe but nothing is wet. If I get this 626 IM I want I'll pull the IM and I can check there. If that's wet then it's a blowby problem although I don't see how that could occur anymore considering I have two check valves in the PCV system - it never sees boost. I guess I really won't know for sure until I shell out for a full leakdown test.
well I can only help with what you are telling me. bad info=bad answer.
restore helps with low oil pressure(inout).
Sorry, didn't realize you were quoting an older post of mine. I believe the smoke issue was because I had to put 5w30 instead of 10w30 because I ran out of oil and it was low. The smoke was at cold idle which tells me the thinner oil (not yet warmed up) was getting past the rings. I think I have heard of this Restore stuff - thought it was a scam though. Does it really work?
ok, let me start off with here is were this site is now suffering the loss of many great contributers by banning them. There are many people that could have jumped in to help you guys out, but not anymore and I dont think I can keep up with this stuff especially now that they have started there own forums. I want to help you guys but you need to help me back too.
First off oil is thicker when cold. god I hope you know this, if not here is a test you poor people whom failed physics. go buy identical syrups. leave one out on the counter and put one in the fridge. in the morning take the two and poor them over you pancakes. you will notice the cold syup is much slower (thicker) to move over the pancakes than the room temp. This is the same reason why water turns to ice. and why you want a cold dense air charge.
The reason you have smoke on start up is the same reason I told you before. I know you dont what to here it, since it is not a easy fix. The reason is that after you are done and parked there is still oil caught up in the head that did not make it down the path to the oil pan. when your valve stem seals are worn the oil will slowly "drain" past the seals and drip of the valves and deposit on to the top of the piston and wait till you start the motor next. This then will be the smoke. (yes you can home test this too) and after that deposit burns off (not warm up) it will stop smoking. Yes it still leaks when you drive but the valve seals get tighter since the bock is warmer (heat expands and cold condenses) and the leak is not that bad making the smoke not noticeable.
your low oil pressure.....well im thinking maybe something has changed that you forgot to take into account like gauge problems, oil type/viscosity change, change in oil system, ect.
Restore is a good fix for this. it thickens up oil to help prevent smoke and leaks and what not due to lower tolerances caused by age or in your case a littil premature wear due to a momentary loss of maintenance. go to wally world and read the back of the can cool stuff. I used to use it in my ol built 355 small block.
I might have some common sense but failed English sorry for those who need to read this. pm me for a mazda forum alternative.
Ok asshole, I really hate arguing on the internet but you took it just a little too far. First, I will start by saying there is a reason the older members like YOU, the "know-it-all" members, are no longer around - they were mostly all arrogant bastards with little respect for people who may not have the privilege of having as much automotive knowledge as you do. Secondly - I am not one of those people who do not possess this knowledge. I have been here for over two years and while I'll admit I was quite the n00b at first I am far from that now. You insult my intelligence when you obviously just misread my post - I'm sorry, had you said something nicely I would have clarified.
For the record I am a graduating Aerospace engineering student - I have taken physics and classes based on physics - hell, physics itself is rather elementary. Yes, you arrogant asshole fluids are more viscous at lower temperatures. In fact, viscosity for a given material is solely dependent on its temperature! I don't need a ******* kitchen analogy to follow - hell, I didn't need anything.
If you had read one goddamned thing I had typed you would have noticed I was talking about lower viscosity oil when it was warmer out. Since you are so fond at quoted my older posts you should have noticed that my little smoking case was back in the middle of August when the temperature was well over 80 degrees. I said I was low on oil and all I had left was 5w30. Rather than go without oil I decided to use that. And yes, you arrogant ****, 5w30 is less viscous than 10w30 at start-up and because of this my car smoked heavily at start-up and while running cold. Yes, I'm aware my valve seals are probably worn - hell my car has 60,000 miles on it I'm pretty damned sure they're worn to some degree. I don't mind a little "puff" at start-up, in fact, my car rarely smoked at all anymore - it was just that one point and I failed to realize the cause at that time. I am aware it could be a gauge issue - in fact, I'm hoping it is! However, because I am usually too busy trying to obtain a degree and figure out where I will be working next year I don't usually have the time to go out and tear my car apart. I do however, plan on doing this soon as I am home on break. Concerning the oil pump - I have not read many cases of those failing here so I was merely asking a question - calm the **** down!
Now let's turn back to you. You complain about how all the old "valuable" members got banned. Sure, some of them were very useful and I can indeed credit my current knowledge to a host of them. However, as time progressed they become more arrogant and contributed less and less. Hell, most of them don't even own Mazdas anymore. If you can't get over a gripe with one admit/owner/whatever you don't deserve to be here. Hell, I don't agree with half the s*** Antoine does sometimes but you don't see me bitching in a thread like Brian MP5T, Kansei, Dexter, etc. Get over your ******* self. YOU are no longer valued here - you don't offer helpful information and you no longer respect other members. You insult those you think with lower intelligence and therefore you are no longer wanted. Sure, you may have made some helpful posts but they'll remain even when you don't. Have a nice day (eekfu)!
Cliffnotes: iracemine is an arrogant **** of an asshole. He considers himself far above anyone else who asks questions and goes out of his way to insult members he feels has lower intelligence than he. He picked on the wrong guy this time and took post of mine out of context to try to prove a point wasn't there. He could have been helpful but he decided to be an asshole. That is all.
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WOW, im sorry for bringing this post back from the dead, but at least i know why my car smokes a little at startup.
i do have another question tho, will this continue to get worse? is there any way to halt the deterioration of the seals?
im not afraid of tearing my head off to work on the seals.
i do have another question tho, will this continue to get worse? is there any way to halt the deterioration of the seals?
im not afraid of tearing my head off to work on the seals.
didnt think I was picking on anyone. Just trying to help explain. It is a problem with just seeing text on forums.
It is amazing that you can get away with treating other members like this and not get any infractions, while others do. But I am glad you have made your judgment on others. I have met some of them and found them to be really nice guys.
I am sorry if I had insulted you, I did not mean to. Its just that I am not the greatest with the English language and that I had made that disclaimer in my last post. It is also hard to understand what others are posting as well, but you last post came loud and clear. Next time I will have to take into account your post count and assume you know everything about this car, espeshally with the post you have made. dont taze me bro
(gtfo) lol
hahahahah
Looking back, I guess I was a little hasty and if I do incur an infraction I will accept it but your post was out of line as well. I did indeed notice your comment about the English language but the fact there was you insulted my intelligence (the bit about failing physics was particularly insulting). I never said anything about post count equating to knowledge but I do know a fair amount about these cars and their engines and for someone to pretty much call me out on it is rather annoying - especially when it came across as elitist bulls*** (I got that from your comment about banning members). I'll admit I've asked stupid questions - we all have but I really wish everyone would just stop jumping on everyone else. I have met, in person, several members here and have helped and received help from many (as I mentioned above). It's just the members whom I like to call the "angry old guys" who bother me. Sure they are helpful and sure they may be nice to the people they know but they really do come across as assholes online. Sure, I guess some of it has to do with reading text on a screen but still...
Anyway, sorry for the outburst - I had some problems with my car yesterday, it was 6:45 AM this morning and I was already at work and it looks to be a bad day. I should not have taken it out on you. Just for future reference, please, please try not to sound so insulting when answering a question. Just remember, if it's a stupid question - just don't respond to it.
So, truce? (drinks)
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Hole, sail this...............(fu)
Yeah, I apologize again. Just please, please don't be so hasty next time when someone appears to have asked a dumb question - it really makes this forum look bad when a new member asks a question and then gets flamed. I mean, at the very least, if it's that stupid of a question, wouldn't it just be better if no one responded? Anyhow, what I had meant about the oil was that I had used a thinner oil weight during the summer (5w30 as opposed to 10w30). Thinking back, I'm pretty sure it was the thinner oil (car was cold) that caused all the smoke at startup and under load before the car was completely warmed up. Ever since switching back to 10w30 I don't have any smoke issues except for a little at startup for the reasons you've mentioned. But yeah, I really hope it won't come to replacing the head (at least not now).
