Because i had to sent the car back to the dealer, I took the AWR mount out to make sure my warranty is in effect with no problem even though it is not the mount that cause the trouble. The mount did crack and tear on one side, i don;t know if it will effect performance (i did not notice any really) but because it crack .. i am trying to see if they will replace it for me.
Broken Awr Mount
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whitey4311
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This is what happens when people start messing with things. I say leave it stock especially with all the mount failures being talked about. You dont want to start messing with these things and the can tell if you messed around in there, they arent idiots.
whitey4311 said:
I am very pleased with this engine mount, it makes the car handle better and takes the jerkiness away while shifting, people mess with car because we people like to improve stuff and share knowledge. If you like to stay stock, there is really no point for you to be on the forum IMHO. You can stay stock but please make sense in your reply. I am only trying to show what i found and the others that have the same mount might want to take a look at it.... thats all. Please don't reply me saying "you don't want to start messing with these things" Its my car , i paid for it .. i will mess with it .. Thanks .. !
whitey4311
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Your right it looks like your money was well spent.
whitey4311
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LOL, wait a minute you are the same guy that just posted about the dropped engine. No puzzle here as to why I wish you would have left that mount in place because it looks like you knew it was your fault.
I understand there may be an issue with the mount failures but as expected people like you are screwing with s*** then wondering why something fails. You can argue it had nothing to do with the failure but then again if you were so sure you wouldnt have run under that car to change out the mount before it went in to the shop.
I understand there may be an issue with the mount failures but as expected people like you are screwing with s*** then wondering why something fails. You can argue it had nothing to do with the failure but then again if you were so sure you wouldnt have run under that car to change out the mount before it went in to the shop.
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What the hell are you talking about?Are you tring to say that the AWR mount is why the tranny mount broke?Its not the reason.He changed it back to stock so he dont have to hear mazda try to blame the problem on the new mount.If you dont like the idea of people Modding there cars then why the hell are you even on this board.Maybe you need to try and understand that 90% of the people on this board mod there car and dont need to hear ignorant crap coming from you about how we shouldnt mess with s*** as you call it.Now if you dont like to hear about people Modding (Messing with s***) there cars then your in the wrong forum because that is what we all do here.Try and think before you make a retared posts like these again.whitey4311 said:
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whitey4311
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Take your retarded self and mount down to the dealer when your engine drops and dont be a pussy and change it out before you do so.
I am not against modding a car I am against dumb s**** modding it then trying to post about failures that they say are not related but are scared enough to change s*** back to stock when something goes wrong.
Mod your car and when something fails say it failed and tell what you have done to the car not jump the motor outn failure band waggon and try to misrepresent what actually happened.
I am not against modding a car I am against dumb s**** modding it then trying to post about failures that they say are not related but are scared enough to change s*** back to stock when something goes wrong.
Mod your car and when something fails say it failed and tell what you have done to the car not jump the motor outn failure band waggon and try to misrepresent what actually happened.
SharkDiver
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The AWR mount is not why the tranny mount failed.Your retarded and thats all that needs to be said.whitey4311 said:
Several Awr mount have broken now. I would definately ask for a refund until they redesign the mount to work properly. Tranny mounts are failing on stock cars, the awr mount would probably make this less likely to happen since it limits engine movement, but who knows. Bottom line is mazda needs to recall the tranny mounts and AWR needs to redesign their engine mounts.
alright i cleaned up the nastyness that this had turned into i will leave the rest keep this thread on topic as i think both posters have valid points the awr COULD have caused undo stress to the top mount and made a bad situation worse but the awr did fail... did it fail cause the engine dropped probably and i would think that would be the most logical explanation as to why the awr is broken...
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the newer AWR mounts have been redesigned. we brought the concern to tony when the first one broke and mailed him a broken one as well. he is going with a newer style of bushing to correct the problem. initially the problem was that a two piece bushing was used, and since they are oriented vertically, the stress on them acts differently than if the bushing were mounted horizontally as they are in all the other mounts he has designed. he has long been aware of the problem and it has been corrected.
we are more than happy to replace the mount if it is bought from us or reimburse the customer.
now, no offense to mazda or this car, but if the tranny mount had broken as they have been doing, that would indeed cause undue stress on the other mounts. since the car only has three engine mounts, if one were to break, you are now asking two mounts to deal with entire power output of the engine.
it should be clarified as there appears to be confusion, the AWR mount is NOT the same as the tranny mount which has been breaking, and most of the cars with the broken tranny mount have NOT had the AWR mount in it to cause that tranny mount to break.
we are more than happy to replace the mount if it is bought from us or reimburse the customer.
now, no offense to mazda or this car, but if the tranny mount had broken as they have been doing, that would indeed cause undue stress on the other mounts. since the car only has three engine mounts, if one were to break, you are now asking two mounts to deal with entire power output of the engine.
it should be clarified as there appears to be confusion, the AWR mount is NOT the same as the tranny mount which has been breaking, and most of the cars with the broken tranny mount have NOT had the AWR mount in it to cause that tranny mount to break.
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Rotus8 said:
i spoke with Tony@AWR a few minutes ago. he will replace the broken mounts. as for replacing all older mounts even if they have not broken i'll have to ask him on that.
he buys his bushings from Energy Suspension. he has mailed the broken mount he has gotten back from us to them so they too can determine what can be done on top of everything else to strengthen the mount. so the revisions are a work in progress. AWR is considering no longer offering 70 durometer mounts for the mazdaspeed3 as he is beginning to feel that they are not strong enough to support this particular powertrain. the downside to this is that going with a stronger bushing will induce more vibration inside the cabin.
outside of AWR's efforts, we are working on something else entirely in terms of engine mounting.
