Bikingpro5 supercharged Protege5

[Cleverfrog]

Depends on the brand for me

 

[JDM_Pro5]

the blue is the actual solenoid?

In the blue box is a purge solenoid valve for the fuel system.

 

[RicoP5]

meant to say the part inside that blue square on the pic lol

 

[JaLMP5]

It's funny that this was brought up because I'm literally doing this right now! Just got the new manifold in about an hour ago, but I won't be able to finish since I have to be at work in an hour.

 

[RicoP5]

gah im being slow or something today. so the solenoid that causes the low circuit code is which one? lol

 

[Cleverfrog]

gah im being slow or something today. so the solenoid that causes the low circuit code is which one? lol

Those two sensors on the mani are the same just hooked into different spots iirc

Edit: fixed

 

[bikingpro5]

Those two solenoids on the mani are the same just hooked into different spots iirc

they are the same sensor

 

[azuelke]

when it comes to machining i believe the older machines do a much better job and are more reliable then the newer stuff.

Less to go wrong... old mills are all mechanical, the new ones are filled to the brim with electronics. I should know, one at work is on a running total of $10,000+ of replacing electronics to get it working properly again.

 

[bikingpro5]

well car is ready for the road, just needs to pass the yearly inspection that's booked for next week so i can drive it legally.. Just waiting for my perrin rail so i can install it and the 440s and then ill get it tuned. Still needs a good cleaning inside and out.

 

[ajkulish]

are you using flips map for right now?

 

[bikingpro5]

are you using flips map for right now?

I have them yes, they will be loaded to the AEM but I'm still having someone tune the car since our setups are completely different and I'm using larger injectors. With all the money/time i have invested why would i be cheap now and not have the car tuned properly.

 

[ajkulish]

no thats not what im saying, this is no area to be cheap. i thought he had 440s any way. i was just saying for the time being. its really nice to have a map to start off of, thats all i was getting at.

so how does the aem work. are there 2 seperate maps for the sc switched on and off?

 

[bikingpro5]

he is running 330s on the factory rail. ill have 440s and the perrin, my piping is much shorter, inlet/outlet are much more flowing then his since i designed them that way, I also ported and improved the SC to allow it to flow a bit better then factory.. The AEM FIC handles the fuel injectors, so only one map is needed as it has been tuned to only add fuel when needed. Running NA the car acts like it always has, its only when i throw on the SC that anything changes.

once i get more comfortable with the unit ill post more info, right now im still learning it.

 

[ajkulish]

thats different. just curious do you know if it runs off of a switch? how exactly does it know when the sc is on? because it doesnt only drive around in boost. the sc can be on and still be 18 in of mercury into vacuum. just let me know what you learn about it. im very curious as to how it works.

 

[bikingpro5]

it has a vac line connected and i have it wired in to my WB and Boost gauge for data logging. It does not have a wired switch to the SC since it is a universal unit, Big Lou has been using one for a while and has it tuned properly and it works great with his Turbo.

From AEM's website

The F/IC intercepts the signal to the stock injectors, allowing the user to modify pulse-width by +/-100%. The F/IC is among the only piggy-back systems that can decrease injector pulse-width, allowing the user to drive larger aftermarket injectors* while still maintaining proper air / fuel ratios.

The F/IC gives users with OBD-II race vehicles and non-factory forced induction systems the ability to retard ignition and deliver accurate amounts of fuel without the need for outdated FMUs or “boost hiding” controllers. This system works parallel to the factory ECU preventing tuning limitations due to complex factory timing patterns. 21x17 maps with configurable load and RPM breakpoints are easily accessed with the F/IC's Windows-based tuning software. The F/IC draws power from PC USB interface for quick and easy calibration changes.

 

[ajkulish]

OK. the only warning i have is that the supercharger can run the same pressure as the motor will run NA but will flow more air. so lets say you can make 4 in mercury into vacuum at 75% throttle NA. in the same instance with the SC on you can make atmospheric pressure at the same 75% throttle but flowing more cfms of air. turbo has one set map. it can not acheive what a supercharger can in this sense. just be careful when you do your road tune. you dont wanna **** your motor up while running lean NA, so you need to make sure that you tune the supercharger for daily driving, then for full throttle and then make sure that it gets along well with NA. i know thats what happens with my ssftc. i only modify my mass air flow signal. let me know if you have any questions when it comes to this. ive gotten pretty good at tuning.

 

[bikingpro5]

the person tuning my car will take care of all of that, he does all of the high hp cars around and still has one of the fastest 4cyls around here.. Im not too worried about it since i wont be driving with the sc on till it has been tuned, and i have the fuel maps now so that i can drive the car NA. Thanks for the info, glad to hear you finally decided to get an ssafc and tune yours properly.

 

[ajkulish]

cough cough ssftc lol. but i havent touched timing yet hahahahah. so ssafc for now

and honestly the combination of ssftc and intercooler at 11.5 afr and 2.5 psi has still picked up a gain of about 25 hp (estimated).

and does he road tune too? i know the shop i dealt with had me road tune before they were gonna touched my car.

 

[bikingpro5]

im dropping the car off to him and he is road/dyno tuning it. when i go pick it up the car will be finished and ready to be driven. I know nothing about tuning and can only help so much, I built it now he can tune it.

 

[ajkulish]

wow, thats awesome that he is doing both. thats deffinitely a lot of work to appreciate. let me know how it goes and how much power he makes brother. looking forward to it.