Best strut/$$$ option for MSP

[khaosman]

You've had more than one autoX on that setup...

True, true! Justin's setup = awesome (hence why I bought mine).

Mine needs an alignment badly, some dumbass (me) set the caster to max negative, tires were just shy of death, and the car itself needs a proper tune BADLY! Next event is on the 18th and most of these issues will be resolved, hopefully the driver can step up

 

[livelyjay]

AWR coilover guys, what spring rates and spring lengths are you running? AWR lets you custom order springs, so I want to see what everyone is running so I can make an educated decision.

 

[livelyjay]

Also, once I find out more information the BC Coilovers and K-Sport GT Pro will be added to the list.

 

[MakeMeGoFast]

D2 Racing

 

[livelyjay]

I was under the impression that D2 coilovers and K-Sport coilovers were exactly the same, just rebranded and painted differently.

 

[aMaff]

I was under the impression that D2 coilovers and K-Sport coilovers were exactly the same, just rebranded and painted differently.

In that case, stay far, far, FAAAAAAR away.

 

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

In that case, stay far, far, FAAAAAAR away.

I'd like to see how BC's dyno, it seems odd they have seperate struts for different spring rates, that seems like a lot of struts on the shelf.

 

[aMaff]

I'd like to see how BC's dyno, it seems odd they have seperate struts for different spring rates, that seems like a lot of struts on the shelf.

Well, I don't have the $$ or facilities to do that kind of testing, but I can tell you from riding in a couple cars with them, and driving one, they feel much closer to a koni level shock than a K-sport / tein SS / Tein Basic type deal.

 

[Rogue]

my understanding of BC is that the dampers are essentially cartridges. When a set is ordered, they just add the bottom and tops to the damper with the proper springs.

 

[livelyjay]

The only thing I worry about is the longevity of the BCs. The K-Sports and other cheapo coilovers seem to blow out prematurely compared to AWRs, or others which use Koni/Bilstein inserts. If I'm going to drop big money on coilovers I want them to last at least 50000 miles. Being rebuildable is a key as well, which can be said for the AWRs, Tri-Points, and BCs.

AWR now has a black mark because the rear upper strut mount has to be modified for it to fit with negative camber. Not terrible, but without a template it would be hard for a less experienced person to install them.

 

[khaosman]

Not sure that any of the others will give you much better options for adjusting camber in the rear. From the sounds of it, you need new lateral links to get that.

 

[livelyjay]

Not sure that any of the others will give you much better options for adjusting camber in the rear. From the sounds of it, you need new lateral links to get that.

I don't mind not having the ability to get decent camber in the rear, but having positive camber is a no-no, which is what you get if you install the AWR right out of the box from what I hear.

 

[livelyjay]

Actually, I take that back about the camber as it may end up being an issue. I need new tires for next season (maybe even the end of this season). I was going to look into a staggered setup with 245/225, but Falken doesn't make the Azenis in a 245/40-17 size. Plus running the same size tires makes sense to me so I can rotate them. So I could I run 235/40-17 all around with a +45 offset wheel? If not, could camber adjustments help me stuff them in there?

 

[livelyjay]

Guys running AWRs, what spring lengths did you go with? I might be buying some used AWR coilovers, but the seller said the springs are really long in the rear (. I know I can buy whatever springs I want, but I'd rather not have to buy them separately after buying the coilovers.

Also can someone send me a PM explaining what higher spring rates provide on the track?

 

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Guys running AWRs, what spring lengths did you go with? I might be buying some used AWR coilovers, but the seller said the springs are really long in the rear (. I know I can buy whatever springs I want, but I'd rather not have to buy them separately after buying the coilovers.

Also can someone send me a PM explaining what higher spring rates provide on the track?

When he refers to springs being really long, is he having to preload the spring?

 

[xelderx]

I think the AWRs come with 10" springs. I used 8" just fine with my 16" rims and plenty of adjustment. 7" springs should be just fine as well. There is a lot of threaded sleeve to adjust with and I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get away with 6" springs on the 1st Gen.

 

[Mallard]

When he refers to springs being really long, is he having to preload the spring?

No, the spring is not preloaded. In fact, in order to get the rear to sit at a normal ride height (not higer than stock) the collers are almost at the bottom of the sleeve. Going to a shorter spring would allow more ride height adjustability and possibly get the collar above the rear tire, allowing for clearance of a wider tire.

 

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

No, the spring is not preloaded. In fact, in order to get the rear to sit at a normal ride height (not higer than stock) the collers are almost at the bottom of the sleeve. Going to a shorter spring would allow more ride height adjustability and possibly get the collar above the rear tire, allowing for clearance of a wider tire.

Wow, im surprised it would even come with 10" springs in the rear if you can't even lower the car anymore then stock. Do you have the Bilstein Inserts or Koni Inserts?

 

[xelderx]

My AWRs came with 10" springs. I ran 8" on my setup which cleared the 245/45-16 tires, but the new setup on the 1st Gen will probably be 6" just because they will be lighter and I don't need anymore travel than the 6" spring already offers (over 3" of travel before binding).

 

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

My AWRs came with 10" springs. I ran 8" on my setup which cleared the 245/45-16 tires, but the new setup on the 1st Gen will probably be 6" just because they will be lighter and I don't need anymore travel than the 6" spring already offers (over 3" of travel before binding).

Currently I'm using a 6" spring in the front and rear. The rear I'm maxed out in rear ride height though. I think a 7" spring would be the most ideal for the setup.