BC coilovers with eibach camber adjustment kit ok?

[daonly1around]

I'm going to picking up a set of BC coil overs soon, and they don't have rear camber adjustment built in, so would that combined with the eibach camber adjustment kit be what all i need?

 

[fostersafb]

I'm not sure what the Eibach camber adjustment kit is. I'd assume if its designed for the rear then its probably the upper lateral link and its even probably made by SPC. If thats the case then thats all you will need.

I have virtually the same setup, except that I'm running the SPC links. I also just had the car aligned a couple days ago and the shop was able to dial exactly the settings I wanted. -2.5* front camber with 1/8" total toe out and -1.5* rear camber with 0 toe.

EDIT* I just looked and SPC does make the kit for SPC and it looks exactly the same as the SPC I have, even the box is the same red and white, lol. Did you order the Eibach kit yet? Not sure what their going for but theres a great deal on the SPC if your interested.

 

[ericrapp]

I think all the factory camber adjustment for the rears are done from the bottom side , and if you need to go beyond factory specs, fosters is correct. Spc are a quality product. By the way you are sick to run -2.5 in front. Are you gaining high speed stability with the toe out in front. I ask because i am getting closer to switching from Cobb springs to Coilovers. If i could pm you i would be thankful. Eric

 

[Nliiitend1]

I think all the factory camber adjustment for the rears are done from the bottom side , and if you need to go beyond factory specs, fosters is correct. Spc are a quality product. By the way you are sick to run -2.5 in front. Are you gaining high speed stability with the toe out in front. I ask because i am getting closer to switching from Cobb springs to Coilovers. If i could pm you i would be thankful. Eric

There is technically no "factory" camber adjustment on the rear of this car...

Camber will change slightly, however, when the eccentric toe bolts are adjusted (since camber and toe are inherently linked with the LCA "control blade" suspesion that the MS3 uses).

 

[ericrapp]

I am mistaken i guess. On the lower "control arm" the eccentrics pushed the lower half of the wheel outward or inward i thought. Help me out on this.

 

[Nliiitend1]

I am mistaken i guess. On the lower "control arm" the eccentrics pushed the lower half of the wheel outward or inward i thought. Help me out on this.

It only pushes it inward or outward at that particular link (i.e., the rear link), which is one of two lower control arms. The front lower control arm (the one that's shaped like a "dogbone" is unaffected.

As I said before, adjusting that eccentric bolt WILL change the camber (due to the relationship between suspension compression, camber, and toe with the "control blade" suspension), but that is not what that bolt is there for. It's for adjusting toe.

Using that bolt to dial in camber is a really quick way to throw your toe waaaay out of whack and destroy your rear tires.

**EDIT** If the diagram inserted above doesn't show up for you, let me know...I've had trouble linking to it before...

EDIT UPDATE: worked around the broken IMG link by attaching the .jpg...

 

[daonly1around]

yeah, the eibach camber kit is for the rea

 

[Nliiitend1]

yeah, the eibach camber kit is for the rea

Right, and that particular "Eibach" kit is just a set re-badged adjustable SPC arms.

 

[fostersafb]

Right, and that particular "Eibach" kit is just a set re-badged adjustable SPC arms.

Exactly, so check the pricing because theres no point in paying a premium for the name only. If you can get them for less than $160 shipped, ya done good, if not check out TH Motorsports.

 

[Wastegate13]

Right, and that particular "Eibach" kit is just a set re-badged adjustable SPC arms.

+1

Andrew, you're looking at the exact setup that I'm running. You need to call TH Motorsports, they were doing the rear arms for 160 shipped I'm not sure if they are still offering that deal or not. Also remember that the BC's no longer come standard with the front camber plates, the are now an option. You're best price on BC is probably Import Image, Josh will hook you up.

 

[daonly1around]

+1

Andrew, you're looking at the exact setup that I'm running. You need to call TH Motorsports, they were doing the rear arms for 160 shipped I'm not sure if they are still offering that deal or not. Also remember that the BC's no longer come standard with the front camber plates, the are now an option. You're best price on BC is probably Import Image, Josh will hook you up.

cool...

stalker.. hahaha

 

[Wastegate13]

cool...

If you need help with anything just give me a call.

 

[fostersafb]

I think all the factory camber adjustment for the rears are done from the bottom side , and if you need to go beyond factory specs, fosters is correct. Spc are a quality product. By the way you are sick to run -2.5 in front. Are you gaining high speed stability with the toe out in front. I ask because i am getting closer to switching from Cobb springs to Coilovers. If i could pm you i would be thankful. Eric

I havent had much road time since getting it done but turn in feels very nice so far. Prior to the SPC links and alignment I was running something like -3*+ camber in the rear. This is with the BC's adjusted as low as they will go in the rear.

I went with the aggressive setup because I plan on doing some track days here and there. Also, since I havent upgraded wheels/tires yet I can see how the tire wear will be before spending that kind of money.

I'll report back after I get some more time with her and feel free to PM me with any questions on the BC's.

 

[daonly1around]

If you need help with anything just give me a call.

ill probably get help form you in TN later this summer when i actually have them installed...

 

[ericrapp]

alot to learn

It only pushes it inward or outward at that particular link (i.e., the rear link), which is one of two lower control arms. The front lower control arm (the one that's shaped like a "dogbone" is unaffected.



As I said before, adjusting that eccentric bolt WILL change the camber (due to the relationship between suspension compression, camber, and toe with the "control blade" suspension), but that is not what that bolt is there for. It's for adjusting toe.

Using that bolt to dial in camber is a really quick way to throw your toe waaaay out of whack and destroy your rear tires.

**EDIT** If the diagram inserted above doesn't show up for you, let me know...I've had trouble linking to it before...

EDIT UPDATE: worked around the broken IMG link by attaching the .jpg...

that worked fine but now i need to go crawl underneath the car again dammit. I appreciate the education all of you you folks I am going to need help for sure. My coilovers came in today and i have a race shop lined up finally, to install and setup the x's and weights and scales. I am sure i will learn alot from them but its over 150 miles away from me so i hope to get it close the first time. Thanks

 

[ericrapp]

I havent had much road time since getting it done but turn in feels very nice so far. Prior to the SPC links and alignment I was running something like -3*+ camber in the rear. This is with the BC's adjusted as low as they will go in the rear.

I went with the aggressive setup because I plan on doing some track days here and there. Also, since I havent upgraded wheels/tires yet I can see how the tire wear will be before spending that kind of money.

I'll report back after I get some more time with her and feel free to PM me with any questions on the BC's.

I will pm absolutely the bc's are very similar to the suspension i will use. And vice versa. Its just starting to warm up around here ( i think ) so lots of things will be going on i hope.