ATP turbo upgrade

[ms64meplease]

its avalible in dec. huh? cool i might be going ems soon thats about the only way i tune if this car is capable of going ems by dec. no prob. though i have a ems here i can hook up are the shop manuals avalible? havent checked there so nice to have to figure out wiring and such before trying to tackle it blindfolded. i might go through 1 motor i hope not but if so ohh well s*** happens when your doing stuff not many have right.

 

[maestro]

a g35 would be near a drag setup with a 50-75 shot kicker just to spool the turbo. i wouldnt do that but im sure it would help...lol i say a 30 is perfect...

me thinks a little more research on turbo chargers is in order for people who wish to mke informed decisions on their purchases.
not to be an ass but there is more than drag racing out there, though it is fun. Consider the RPM ranges and power/torque needs of other types of racing.
There are probably several good applications for the different sizes available. Engine management should also be a concern as someone mentioned.
Big turbo and no gas makes daddies butt hurt.
Talk to ATP if they are the ones building the turbos. If they can't explain it to you they don't know what they are doing or they are not interested in you as a custonmer.

You should hear ny BOV after a six pack.

 

[ms64meplease]

me thinks a little more research on turbo chargers is in order for people who wish to mke informed decisions on their purchases.
not to be an ass but there is more than drag racing out there, though it is fun. Consider the RPM ranges and power/torque needs of other types of racing.
There are probably several good applications for the different sizes available. Engine management should also be a concern as someone mentioned.
Big turbo and no gas makes daddies butt hurt.
Talk to ATP if they are the ones building the turbos. If they can't explain it to you they don't know what they are doing or they are not interested in you as a custonmer.

You should hear ny BOV after a six pack.

how old are you? just wondering by the baby talk! how many turbo cars have you owned yet modified http://member.cardomain.com/gentalmon is my biggest project. tuned by uhhh me, that car alone went through 3 turbos to get what i wanted. so do you really think i dont know what im doing. are you a freakin retard or just ignorant talking worse than my 6yr old. i have no feelings for a warranty i really dont care if my motor blows trying to get the most hp out of it so be it, i will buy a new motor.

obviuosly you dont know what to do nor have the resources to do so. i would highly recomend you shut your mouth and think before speaking. besides the rx i just sold had 483whp you just dont see that everyday now do you.

 

[maestro]

how old are you? just wondering by the baby talk! how many turbo cars have you owned yet modified http://member.cardomain.com/gentalmon is my biggest project. tuned by uhhh me, that car alone went through 3 turbos to get what i wanted. so do you really think i dont know what im doing. are you a freakin retard or just ignorant talking worse than my 6yr old. i have no feelings for a warranty i really dont care if my motor blows trying to get the most hp out of it so be it, i will buy a new motor.

obviuosly you dont know what to do nor have the resources to do so. i would highly recomend you shut your mouth and think before speaking. besides the rx i just sold had 483whp you just dont see that everyday now do you.

Good god. Suddenly I am expected to know everything about you and you know everything about me?
I made a non inflammatory reply and your balls shrivel up!?
Are you teaching your 6 year old to be as beligerant as you?

I never questioned your knowledge or experience, simply what you posted.
Your reply to my post would make you the retard. Please feel free to explain how you know so much about me and the cars I have owned or worked on.

You owned a 483 whp rx7!!!! So what?! Depends on who you make that idiot comment to as to wether they see them everyday. Call Peter Ferrell up and ask him how many 400+ HP RX7's he sees everyday. I think he sold out or maybe that was Pettit.
For your information, since you don't know me, I learned to work on cars and build big power when my dad had me help on his 41 Plymouth. A well built 392 Hemi with large roots type supercharger. A 9 second 1/4 mile car. I have been playing with superchargers, turbos and nitrous for many years.
So maybe you shut your mouth before people think the only hole you talk out of is your ass.
Your FC is clean, very nice looking, but in no way intimidating unless you know little to nothing about cars.

Oh, and learn to spell. It will help your kid to progress through the different grade levels public schools are now offering. Also don't be such a broke dick yourself, price on B+G's is the determining factor for you buying them? Buck up Richie Rich that should be toilet paper money for you. Just commenting on inferrences made by your reply. I could be wrong.

Either way your childish comments are uncalled for as are the few that I made. Beer is my excuse, what's yours?

 

[freekwonder]

play nice guys. How about both of your relize that neither of you knew much about the other guy and started pulling rash judgements out of your asses. Lets try and keep this one on topic.

 

[Speed6 Guy]

(nailbyt)




There is much to say about a new turbo but there is also much to say about a warranty. This is the first car that came with this motor and not all the kinks are out of it so I will wait for a little on the turbo charger. But on the other hand if no one buys it then one will make more.

 

[maestro]

play nice guys. How about both of your relize that neither of you knew much about the other guy and started pulling rash judgements out of your asses. Lets try and keep this one on topic.

Fair statement.
I still contend the different offerings from ATP will have advantages across a broad range of performance needs.

 

[MikeMS6GT]

These ATP turbo claims are scaring me. This is the same thing that happened with the Audi A4. I am not sure if there are any 1.8T guys on this forum but if there are, then they know what I am talking about. The products were delayed constantly, and the tuning was not the best. Many guys were making only 220 whp on the ATP setups. Granted that was a 20whp improvement over the KO4-15 that the other tuners were using in the A4. Then came REVO to save the day with 300+whp tuning for the ATP packages. The other big problem was with the ATP downpipe and the bolts were always coming loose. Some people even tac welded them to keep them from backing out.
At any rate, this is a different car and hopefully someone like Cobb or another tuner will have quality tuning for our cars. I think it would be somewhat premature to rush into a turbo and tuning without even seeing what tuning alone will do for our cars. Without tuning a turbo upgrade is a moot point. I hope that there is good tuning very soon. To the people that are going to do standalones, my hat is off to you.

 

[OneQuikMSP]

(mswerd)

 

[HiBoost TS]

I have a customer that bought an upgrade kit for his Golf GTI and ATP claimed 300 WHP. When we dynoed, it made only 236 WHP.

If you go with the upgrade, go with the GT35R. The GT30R turbo is not good on the 2.3 liter. Believe me, I have already tried it. The GT35R is the one to go with. We are making 502 WHP on the 2.0 Mazda 3 and 589 on the 2.3 liter.

We will be offering turbo upgrades and Front mounted intercooler at a lower price and proven performance.

Juan

 

[69RMSP]

Dont do what Juan doesnt do.

p.s no sarcaism intended

 

[ssinstaller]

I have a customer that bought an upgrade kit for his Golf GTI and ATP claimed 300 WHP. When we dynoed, it made only 236 WHP.

If you go with the upgrade, go with the GT35R. The GT30R turbo is not good on the 2.3 liter. Believe me, I have already tried it. The GT35R is the one to go with. We are making 502 WHP on the 2.0 Mazda 3 and 589 on the 2.3 liter.

We will be offering turbo upgrades and Front mounted intercooler at a lower price and proven performance.

Juan

What is wrong with the gt3076 on the 2.3. On paper it looks like a great turbo for the motor. What makes the gt35r a better choice?? I'm only trying to reach around 400~450hp, wouldn't the gt35r be much more turbo than I need. At what RPM does the gt35r spool up on the 2.3??

 

[jdub260]

All this 350-450whp is going to be a moot point if there isn't an aftermarket clutch that can hold up to it. I haven't seen anyone that is making a clutch but I have heard of people destroying their factory clutch with the entire car still stock.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anything more than CAI, Exhaust and Tune should be done untill the clutch is upgraded.

I'm sure if you know how to drive it just right the stock clutch might hold up but I doubt it.

 

[ssinstaller]

All this 350-450whp is going to be a moot point if there isn't an aftermarket clutch that can hold up to it. I haven't seen anyone that is making a clutch but I have heard of people destroying their factory clutch with the entire car still stock.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anything more than CAI, Exhaust and Tune should be done untill the clutch is upgraded.

I'm sure if you know how to drive it just right the stock clutch might hold up but I doubt it.

As far as I know there really havent been too many issues with the clutch that weren't the result of abuse. I have quite a few mods and can spin all 4 tires if I dump it, but I don't abuse the clutch daily like some do and haven't had any issues. Either way, I'm sure someone will make us an upgraded clutch berfore too long--especially now that there are two vehicles it could be used on..

 

[jdub260]

As far as I know there really havent been too many issues with the clutch that weren't the result of abuse. I have quite a few mods and can spin all 4 tires if I dump it, but I don't abuse the clutch daily like some do and haven't had any issues. Either way, I'm sure someone will make us an upgraded clutch berfore too long--especially now that there are two vehicles it could be used on..

Don't get me wrong as soon as the warranty is up I'll be in line to get a bigger turbo....TMIC....Turbo Back Exhaust....and any other super warranty voiding mod's that are out. I just hope that by then there are some good clutches on the marke. I'll need one.

As I read somewhere before "The best thing to ever happen to the Mazdaspeed6 is the Mazdaspeed3!!!"

 

[HiBoost TS]

What is wrong with the gt3076 on the 2.3. On paper it looks like a great turbo for the motor. What makes the gt35r a better choice?? I'm only trying to reach around 400~450hp, wouldn't the gt35r be much more turbo than I need. At what RPM does the gt35r spool up on the 2.3??

The turbine in the GT30r is too small for the 2.3 liter. The duratec engine breaths very well and needs more flow. With the small turbine you are killing the power. I tried both turbos in both the 2.0 and the 2.3 liter and the response with the GT35R is better and top end as well. We topped at 341 at 22 psi with the gt30 on the 2.0 and went to the GT35R and bumped right to 421 at the same boost level with more power and torque right from 2500 RPMs to the redline.

On the 2.3 with the GT35R it starts boosting right at 2800 RPMs and will reach full boost right before 4000 with the .63 A/R turbine housing. With the .82, you will hit full boost at 4500 RPMs but will see more HP at 6000 and up.

I will post the dyno results soon if I remember.

Juan

 

[HiBoost TS]

Here is the link to one of my dynos. This was at 13 to 14 psi of boost on pump gas.

This is the GT35R with .63 A/R housing.

Enjoy...

http://media.putfile.com/Mazda-3-at-13-psi-on-Big-Boost-kit

Juan

 

[ssinstaller]

The turbine in the GT30r is too small for the 2.3 liter. The duratec engine breaths very well and needs more flow. With the small turbine you are killing the power. I tried both turbos in both the 2.0 and the 2.3 liter and the response with the GT35R is better and top end as well. We topped at 341 at 22 psi with the gt30 on the 2.0 and went to the GT35R and bumped right to 421 at the same boost level with more power and torque right from 2500 RPMs to the redline.

On the 2.3 with the GT35R it starts boosting right at 2800 RPMs and will reach full boost right before 4000 with the .63 A/R turbine housing. With the .82, you will hit full boost at 4500 RPMs but will see more HP at 6000 and up.

I will post the dyno results soon if I remember.

Juan

Thanks for the info.

Do you have any plans to produce a turbo upgrade for the MS6?? I don't really like that the ATP setup keeps the stock manifold, and uses that V-band adaptor at the downpipe connection so they can keep an internal wastgate--they also seem to be a little hesistant to give out any firm HP numbers, or even any pictures of the thier kit installed.

I'm going to wait(try to wait) until I hit about 15k miles before I upgrade, because I'd like to get at least a little use out of the warantee. My dealership is ok with me modding just about anything, as long as I leave to OEM turbo--after that I'm on my own. But when I do upgrade, I guess I'll just go with the GT35R.--Hopefully you'll have something available by then.

 

[Nutari]

dont forget about us ms3 guys too.

 

[ssinstaller]

dont forget about us ms3 guys too.

Come on now. You guys have to wait your turn. (peep)