Any photographers in here?
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smo0f said:
Film...oh, rolls of plastic coated with chemicals film. Got it. [/sarcasm]
Taking pictures with film is like a computer without a GUI; a car without electric start; a TV without a remote; a roof covered in sod...
There are many instances where humans used to do X with technology Y, such as in the above examples. Digital is just a better way of doing photography, not something other then traditional photography. Many people who disagree with this think that photography is inherantly different when using digital versus film; they believe something is lost when you go digital. And just as in the above examples, you can see that this is not true. The fact is, a digital camera does everything a film camera does and in the exact same way (especially true when working with RAW workflow). Images still need to be processed (removed from the camera) and transfered to a printer. During that transfer adjustments are made (yes, 1-hour photo labs use machines that make adjustments to every print to enhance levels and color and even cropping). Then printing of the image occurs and images are stored in boxes or albums for everyone to see (or not). See, the process is the same.
Since RAW images are really just the pure output of the sensor (in the same way a negative is the pure output of a film camera) the user has to process further the image in order to print it. With digital the user downloads the images onto a compter; processes according to the environment while shooting using level, curves, tone and WB controls. This is the same way a film photographer might cross-process film or otherwise adjust the developement of the negative in order to achive the desired result. Finally the images are sorted (or not) and prints are made. During this step (known as enlargement for film) further cropping and adjusting using filters, burning, doging, selective focus, and other techniques (all the same for film) is carried out. Final converting to JPEG (developing) takes place and the image is in its final form.
So, the world of photography hasn't changed, its just evolved. None of the other advancements mentioned above fundimentaly changed the item in question. Rather, they improved or enhanced the user experience. In some cases broadening the items capapbility, while in others simply changing the procedure for use. Photography has undergone the same evolution, but stayed pretty much the same.
FWIW, photography programs that still use film do it becuase it intrinsically requires more thought, focus, and study to make an image. The slower pace of the process helps students get familiar without having too many concepts go speeding by. I really don't think they use film because its "better."
Kansei said:
Yeah, the school i'm going to now accepts film shooters up to a certain class level which is the one I'm in right now, but the next class up is nothing but digital and next fall they are transferring over to strictly digital and this is a Community College. So yeah, the University I'm transferring to which is basically the best in the state is nothing but digital.
Bump for pictures and Contest entries.
I was shooting my entry last night when my cat knocked my tripod over. The problem was that the camera was only about 18" off the ground so the tripod base was not very large. The cat knocked it when I walked across the room. I heard a crash and saw a flash. It was pretty intense because I knew what got knocked over, but the flash was a suprise. I was using my ebay remote trigger...when the camera hit the ground it landed right on the transmitter which was mounted on the hotshoe. Transmitter TEST button is also right on top.
Anyway, the case broke-up pretty good. The thing still worked and I kept shooting. After I gathered the large peices and crazy-glued them together. The result was pretty good given the very hard fall.
I was shooting my entry last night when my cat knocked my tripod over. The problem was that the camera was only about 18" off the ground so the tripod base was not very large. The cat knocked it when I walked across the room. I heard a crash and saw a flash. It was pretty intense because I knew what got knocked over, but the flash was a suprise. I was using my ebay remote trigger...when the camera hit the ground it landed right on the transmitter which was mounted on the hotshoe. Transmitter TEST button is also right on top.
Anyway, the case broke-up pretty good. The thing still worked and I kept shooting. After I gathered the large peices and crazy-glued them together. The result was pretty good given the very hard fall.
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NVP5White said:
Get a fish.
ZoominMX-5
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Alrights guys, heres something to discuss.
I can get lightroom for 89 bucks!! woohoo.
Ok sorry for the random post, i just got hella excited.
But on a more serious note.. If you had 300 to spend on a tripod/ballhead, remote shutter release, and a bag / gear holder, what would you pick up?
I can get lightroom for 89 bucks!! woohoo.
Ok sorry for the random post, i just got hella excited.
But on a more serious note.. If you had 300 to spend on a tripod/ballhead, remote shutter release, and a bag / gear holder, what would you pick up?
ZoominMX-5 said:
how are you getting lightroom for that price?
I just got the bogen 3021pro and the 488 head and it was 300 bucks, if your not using a large heavy lens you can go with the 486 head and save yourself about 40 bucks
for the money I am not sure you will find a better comboZoominMX-5
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oops nevermind, its 99 from the Adobe education store.
https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-EDU#view= ols_prod&loc=en_us&store=OLS-EDU&categoryOID=1638009&distributionOID=103
Gotta love college discounts
https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-EDU#view= ols_prod&loc=en_us&store=OLS-EDU&categoryOID=1638009&distributionOID=103
Gotta love college discounts
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Just purchased a right angle viewfinder off ebay. My plans are to use it this fall at Clemson football games
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im bored so here are some shots of mine
All were taken with tamron 28-75. Im constantly amazed at how sharp it is at F/11! this lens is truly an awesome deal
All were taken with tamron 28-75. Im constantly amazed at how sharp it is at F/11! this lens is truly an awesome deal
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NVP5White said:
Nope. With this i can hold it low to the ground to give myself a better idea of the depth of field and for a more dramatic pic. I can get some of the football field in the foreground at the bottom of the pic. Also if the players jump and Im shooting up it will appear they are higher than they are.
I got the idea from Peter R Miller.
http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/1719
ipleadthe5th said:
Yes, very dramatic. So you have press credentials to the game? A lot of photographers shoot from a kneeling position since actually seeing grass in the frame doesn't add much drama.
As for DoF, I think you'll shoot what you can get as far as f-stop is conserned. You'll be wide-open or close to it in order to keep your shutter speed up. DoF willnot be a primma consideration. Maybe you meant composition...autofocus will make sure stuff is in focus. Make sure you have fast glass.
