Any photographers in here?

LOL at the herse too. I've never seen a mid 80's buick made into a herse until now.
Haha, it's actually my 1990 Buick Superior, the car I've been driving for about 2 years up until I bought my P5 (which I still have to take home, oops!). It's served me on many road trips but it's a project car and I'm not exactly financially equipped to continue running with a car that needs so much restoration, sadly. But I love it!
 
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But does that still make it photography? ;P Some say yay, others nay! It's a heck of an improvement from the original, but that doesn't make it a great photo.

I never said it didn't make it photography. I just said that you gots da mad skillzz wit da P.S.
 
But does that still make it photography? ;P Some say yay, others nay! It's a heck of an improvement from the original, but that doesn't make it a great photo.

This is kind of an issue with me. For some photography, and the photographic process ends with the shutter click. I've never believed this especially after taking my first photo class in high school. There I learned that the shutter click is only the first step in complex process.

Anyway, I went to the Corcoran Gallery in D.C. and saw the Ansel Adams exhibit. In one of the very first images in the show was of the Yosemite Valley in California. There was a road cutting through the center of the image so Adams touched-up the glass plate negative to remove the road.

Photography, as practiced by many of us, is a form of art. As such its exactly what we want it to be and at the end of the day the image will be judged on its ability to communicate the message we intend to the viewer. No more, no less.

<now back to you regularly scheduled program>
 
I agree. Although I have to say that there are some really bad photos that no matter what type of enhancements you do to them they are still horrific.
 
so I'm looking at purchasing a wireless shutter release for my camera and a wireless trigger for a off camera flash for my 20D. Can someone point me in the right direction. Looking for something to get the job done but not too expensive.
 
just took this very quick pic for a friend. we needed to head out, and there was a car getting ready to come, so i had like 2 seconds. we're gonna go back sometime though

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i just realized i need to crop out the sides a little
 
First off, altspace, killer PS job! I would like to see the original! Did you take the photo from another moving vehicle or do you have access to one of those pole frames that you can attach to the car and then put the camera on the end? I REALLY want one of those!

Now about "Does Photoshoping a photo still make it Photography?"

Yes and no. It all depends what kind of photography you want to classify the photo as. If you want to consider a photo "photojournalism" then pretty much ANY photoshoping outside of brightness/contrast, levels, dodging, and burning is NOT ok. Some croping is ok but only as long as it does not "change" the meaning/emotion of the photo. Photojournalists have lost jobs in the past for Photoshoping photos.

For most any other type of photography, photoshoping is A-OK but usually if you do so much photoshoping to a photo that it is drasticly different from the original it is considered an Illustration and you want to let people know it is when viewing it. Some styles of photography that photoshoping is accepted would be fashion, comercial, fine art, automotive (non-journalistic style), portrature.

Trying to pass off a heavily photoshoped photo as an "unedited photograph" and then being caught is one of the quickest ways to have your reputation as a photographer screwed up in the professional world.
 
After much googling I found the rig I was talking about!

automotiverigs.com

Damn they are expensive though!
 
First off, altspace, killer PS job! I would like to see the original!

Yes, there was another vehicle in the photo that I replaced with PS. It was a Saab from many years ago. I tried to match the angles, shadows, reflections, etc.
 
After much googling I found the rig I was talking about!

automotiverigs.com

Damn they are expensive though!

I think we discussed this rig and other ideas for achieving a similar look over the summer. Sticky Pod has a good product, but this idea is better, IMO.

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This was my idea for a cheaper system which would be good, but not as good as the referenced system. The fact is no other mounting type would be able to match the undercarriage mounting's ability to show an unobstructed view of the car.

I also used this mount:

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To take this image:

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The results are not spectacular but could be better given some more time with it. I haven't built the tripod-suction cup thing, but I may someday.
 
Here's a couple I took with a mount I made. I'll have to see if I can find the pic of the mount. It's a suction mount made from one of those 2 pod suction mounts used for carrying large items....

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My in car rig. Nothing special, but it sure works and holds steady. Not bad for a few bungees and a tripod.

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In car video test. Had the camera mounted to high.

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