another new one

I will go with Blendercloud on this thread. (alright)




Again, do you have any sort of data to back this up? Find me a link...

Oh, I am not asking Blendercloud for a link because I already know what he says is spot on correct.

How do you "know" he is correct? Because he has 500+ posts? lol
As for a link Your Link

i didnt realize it was a competition? If you guys want to run a short ram, then by all means, run a short ram... when i wrote what i wrote i was at work and was browsing the forums... if long paragraph length stating known generalities is what you make your decisions on, thats fine too.

I'll end it with this, if the cold air intake idea didnt work, mazda probably wouldnt of invested the tons of money into R&D for their own CAI and made only short rams... use some common sense and think about it....

edit: i left scott a message to see me the test data showing the CAI out performing the short ram... i'll post it when he emails it to me tomorrow...
 
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i didnt realize it was a competition? If you guys want to run a short ram, then by all means, run a short ram... when i wrote what i wrote i was at work and was browsing the forums... if long paragraph length stating known generalities is what you make your decisions on, thats fine too.

I'll end it with this, if the cold air intake idea didnt work, mazda probably wouldnt of invested the tons of money into R&D for their own CAI and made only short rams... use some common sense and think about it....

edit: i left scott a message to see me the test data showing the CAI out performing the short ram... i'll post it when he emails it to me tomorrow...

I'm just going to put out there that they didn't develop their own. They adopted another brand's. Probably because that brand sold to them at the lowest price.
 
I'm just going to put out there that they didn't develop their own. They adopted another brand's. Probably because that brand sold to them at the lowest price.

*sigh*

And the fact that it worked...

this conversation can go round and round and round and round all night...

im done with it... if you guys still want the data from siegal, pm me

im going to take pics of the griffin tmic now.... bye
 
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I don't ever mean to deliberately offend anyone if they didn't come out and ask for it. I just try to share my knowledge and expertise where I can. I'm not trying to compete with anyone. If I could explain things well in shorter posts I sure would. I need some practice with that I suppose.

With such a limited number of these cars on the road our community can't afford to let differing opinions keep us from advancing the platform. I'm doing my best to help out. I know many others including all4 are as well. We'll have to simply agree that anything is better than the stock junk and move on from there.
 
You guys are all here for the same thing, so we're all looking for ways to improve the car.

And yes, the MS CAI is a rebadged AEM CAI, but it also will save you from some warranty troubles. It may not be the best option, but if you want to avoid a headache at a troublesome dealer, it might be one to consider.

Anyways, enjoy your car. Post pics if you can!
 
I don't ever mean to deliberately offend anyone if they didn't come out and ask for it. I just try to share my knowledge and expertise where I can. I'm not trying to compete with anyone. If I could explain things well in shorter posts I sure would. I need some practice with that I suppose.

With such a limited number of these cars on the road our community can't afford to let differing opinions keep us from advancing the platform. I'm doing my best to help out. I know many others including all4 are as well. We'll have to simply agree that anything is better than the stock junk and move on from there.

keep doing what your doing, i can tell from what you say that you are a pretty sharp guy. I wasnt mad about what you said, i was just a little irked that killer tried to make it look like a competition...

I am by no means an expert, if i have experience with something, i'll voice my opinion and usually its from experience. If i say something wrong and someone corrects it, thats great because now i can learn something i didnt know about. Also, blender did make some very good points with the 1% = more power saying... and it makes sense and there is no doubt in my mind that he is correct about it.
 
How do you "know" he is correct? Because he has 500+ posts? lol
As for a link Your Link

i didnt realize it was a competition? If you guys want to run a short ram, then by all means, run a short ram... when i wrote what i wrote i was at work and was browsing the forums... if long paragraph length stating known generalities is what you make your decisions on, thats fine too.

I'll end it with this, if the cold air intake idea didnt work, mazda probably wouldnt of invested the tons of money into R&D for their own CAI and made only short rams... use some common sense and think about it....

edit: i left scott a message to see me the test data showing the CAI out performing the short ram... i'll post it when he emails it to me tomorrow...

Easy tiger...(lol2) Not trying to make it a competition, just making sure that the right information gets out to our member base. And in all those links NONE of them is on a TURBOCHARGED car which makes a HUGE difference. Thanks for posting.:)
 
I appreciate all of the advice...going to start doing things now.

As I started this thread out, my car needed to be about 50% resprayed because of key marks...It's done and perfect.

I simply look at the car and enjoy it, no matter what I'm going to do. I know that there will always be someone faster, lower, louder, etc. What matters is that I like it. So far, I've done springs, MS3 wheels (these will be replaced at a later date--the car had normal 6 wheels because the previous owner took his wheels with him, before it got repo'd). To be ordered this week--SRI, TIP, and exhaust...still don't know if i'm going to do one outlet or two.

Thanks to all!
 
Quick update...I did the exhaust---1 outlet now, so the pipe has a straight shot out the back. I left both of the trim rings on, but you can't tell that there is only one outlet.
I took a lot of what you all had to say, and then decided that performance might be negligible on 1 vs. 2 outlets, but this also eliminated the weight of two oem mufflers, by going with a single magnaflow.
Next up is the SRI and TIP--was hoping the test run between cobb and PG would have been over by now, but I'm still going with PG..

..Captain KRM you out there.....?


Thanks.
 
How does the single sound? I would imagine despite leaving both tips on there, one would be able to tell which one is real and which one is fake (carbon deposits on the tips). I think there are caps made for the non-functional outlet...?
 
How does the single sound? I would imagine despite leaving both tips on there, one would be able to tell which one is real and which one is fake (carbon deposits on the tips). I think there are caps made for the non-functional outlet...?

Just keep the car clean and people won't be able to tell.
 
It has a low, rumbling tone. Because it is only one outlet, it's obviously louder than two, but it's exactly what I was looking for. It does not sound like a fartcan, which is what I was avoiding.

It sounds like the car means business, but thankfully, it doesn't drone on the freeway...which is how I get to work.

I may cap the other one, or I can call it a "speedhole"--(obscure reference from The Simpsons ;)
 
It has a low, rumbling tone. Because it is only one outlet, it's obviously louder than two, but it's exactly what I was looking for. It does not sound like a fartcan, which is what I was avoiding.

It sounds like the car means business, but thankfully, it doesn't drone on the freeway...which is how I get to work.

I may cap the other one, or I can call it a "speedhole"--(obscure reference from The Simpsons ;)

can you link to the muffler part number as this is my plan as well. i had the same headerback setup on my 240sx and it sounded better than any exhaust i ever heard on a 4cyl
 
I'm not sure of the magnaflow model #, as I only saw the box before I bought it from the muffler installer/shop. It is 14" L X 9" W X 4" thick (at the widest point), single 2.5" inlet, single 2.5" (centered) outlet.

Since I'm not removing and/or modifying the cats, I left the system at 2.5". My thoughts were that since I'm not putting in a test pipe or custom cats, there's simply no reason to bump up to 3". There wouldn't be any gain (that I know of) just a different sound. Arizona has some pretty strict emissions laws, and I don't want to have to put on/take off every year.

Hope this helps you Shredder.
 
Get a SF if you plan on getting an AP

Now, what about CAI vs. SRI---I'm befuddled with this one...Any ideas on these would be appreciated. Thanks!

Keep in mind that if you get the Cobb AP (AccessPort), there is a map for the Stage I + SF, and down the road a map for Stage II + SF + Turbo-back exhaust. The stage two gives you a 19.1% hp gain, and 14.5% lbs-ft of torque (w/ 93 oct, there's a map for 91oct as well).
Cobb has a bunch of warnings to NOT use a CAI with the AP. You can run lean an blow your engine. Perhaps you could get it tuned for a CAI, but that is pretty expensive, and I'm not sure what gains you would get, if any (maybe some from the custom tune itself).

I am holding out for down the road to get the TB exhaust and run Stage II, although I've heard many people getting away with running the Stage II with just the SF + a test pipe. I do not recall seeing anyone running stage II with a CAI off hand, they usually use the SF. Think about where you want to be, and plan your mods so you are not buying redundant stuff (i.e. a cat-back, but then you want a turbo-back).
 
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