Air/Water Intercooler?

[SmoothCriminal]

anyone considered going with an air/water intercooler? I found a full kit with water circulator and piping for $829, the piping may need some adjustment but the thermal conductivity of water is much greater than air so this setup should actually be better than an a typical air/air intercooler, also, you can supercool the water to below the ambient temperature you're driving in for an added advantage. just wondering if anyone's tried it or given it thought

feel free to move this to FI tech is thats where it belongs
(bling) (piss)

 

[boostaddict]

Details? A link maybe?

 

[YP5 Toronto]

IMO...not worth it...unless you have gone the route of 15+ psi and lots of internals.... Air/Water Intercooler is usually a DRAG specific application. again...IMO...spend the money on proper fuel control.

 

[SmoothCriminal]

http://www.miatanuts.com/Merchant2/...ode=MI&Product_Code=MM999-656&Category_Code=P

 

[YP5 Toronto]

definately not worth it after looking at the link.... miatas had to struggle with very confined engine bays.... plus...this application is not going to really add anything to the current MSP setup...again IMO

 

[jersey_emt]

Yeah, but for $829 it's actually cheaper than the air/air intercooler kits.

 

[YP5 Toronto]

ya....but... the stock MSP is way more efficient than this...

cheaper does not mean...better.....

for a bit more...you can get an piggy back....

 

[SmoothCriminal]

how on earth would it be more efficient? its the same principle behind using water to cool your computer instead of air, water is more thermally conductive.
ie: stick your hand in the freezer, cold right? now stick it in a bucket of ice water, hurts your hand its so cold
the two mediums are the same temperature, BUT you could cool the water, whereas it'd be difficult to cool the air outside your car before it blows through your intercooler

 

[kpracer94]

I tried the air/water intercooler setup in my grand national. It
worked ok at the strip where I could keep the water iced before runs, but I didn't like for everyday driving. Water just gets really hot. I ended up running a bigger front mount with greater success. The other was just way to much trouble with to minimal
gains. It really didn't help my times like you would think.
kevin

 

[YP5 Toronto]

how on earth would it be more efficient? its the same principle behind using water to cool your computer instead of air, water is more thermally conductive.
ie: stick your hand in the freezer, cold right? now stick it in a bucket of ice water, hurts your hand its so cold
the two mediums are the same temperature, BUT you could cool the water, whereas it'd be difficult to cool the air outside your car before it blows through your intercooler

typical response....little bit on the "taking it personal side"...

that little cooler.....with that very SMALL pump....with the very minimal "tubing" that is transfering such a small amount of water to air... is NOT AS EFFICIENT AS the MSP FMIC..

if we are talking principles....then yes..... water is better.... but THAT SETUP is not going to bring this pieces of science into PROPER practice.

you ask...you get answers.... oh ya..thanks for the example you used to describe the who thermally conductivity principle...very educational

 

[Breeegz]

Sorry for resurecting a dead thread, but

I tried the air/water intercooler setup in my grand national. It
worked ok at the strip where I could keep the water iced before runs, but I didn't like for everyday driving. Water just gets really hot. I ended up running a bigger front mount with greater success. The other was just way to much trouble with to minimal
gains. It really didn't help my times like you would think.
kevin

^^get a bigger water resivior and/ or a bigger front cooler.^^

I really thing an air to water is the way to go, especially if you are running a water cooled turbo, imo.

Downfalls... more complicated and less reliable
Positives.. ability to cool down the charge better and more direct airflow...

peace