AEM short-ram VS Injen CAI

[LazerBlueP5]

AEM claims they went the short-ram rout because it didn't benefit doing a CAI configuration on our vehicles. Does anyone know if that is true.
I see that Injen claims a gain of 7hp with the Protege CAI, how about the AEM short-ram #'s?

I'm asking because if it is, indeed, true that the short-ram can yeild the same hp results in our cars applications then I'd go with the short-ram, just out of ease of installation. And less fear of some fluke engine aqua-lock incident, driving thru heavy rain.

 

[WhiteZoomZoom]

If you go to aempower.com you can see the applications for the P5. If I remember right it was about 5hp gain.

 

[Sir Nuke]

either way.....the Injen still looks a lot better. (stash)

 

[LazerBlueP5]

Does anyone know the prices on both off-hand.

 

[gene in cincinnati]

And less fear of some fluke engine aqua-lock incident, driving thru heavy rain.

Many others and I have Dinan CAIs on our BMWs and we don't have problems with heavy rain - as long as you don't drive it through a creek, you should be ok.

 

[LazerBlueP5]

But you know what I mean- I'm sure you have a little hesitation when you drive thru puddles.
Like I said, this wont stop me from going with a CAI over Short-Ram....now that I know the CAI does, indeed, provide more HP than the AEM short-ram.
Wonder why AEM would sell themself short only making a short-ram for the Protege. I'm sure Injen has sold quite a few more intakes for Protege customers than AEM.

 

[Protege5 kid]

hate to be one of those people that have a horror story ...but we have one guy in our club who went threw a huge puddle, one day when we had bad rain and his engine locked....lucky for him a few days later after things had time to dry they managed to get it going...he didn't have the ingen however

He modified his ractive intake to be a CAI...if anyone wants to know how i can find the "how to instructions" our vice-pres of our club discovered it.

When my site is back up i'll find you the posting on our message board

 

[ALLMAN]

I too have had recorded situations where rainy conditions warranted close hydro-lock scenarios.......Not this car , but in a 2001 Honda Civic w/ an Injen intake.....the motor started spit and sputtering, which caused an "IMMEDIATE" hault in driving and the intake was checked to the horrible site of the tubing filled with water........VERY CLOSE CALL......so yeah, since then, I too am affraid...Peace!

 

[pingdum]

either way.....the Injen still looks a lot better. (stash)

I must say I do not agree. One of the reasons I went with the short ram was because I think it looks much better. With a CAI you can't see the filter, just a big hunk of pipe. Plus here in "sunny" FLA it rains way too much for me to be worrying about hydro-locking, no matter how small a chance.

Does anyone know the prices on both off-hand.

I got my AEM for 159(including shipping) from cox import:
http://coximport.com/store/22-480

 

[Pro5OnSpeed]

AEM blows

injen is the best cai you can buy. its all in the numbers. i was reading in an imoprt magazine, and the injen had the best numbers in every catagory. who the heck cares if you can see it our not? you will pay more for the injen but its hella worth it. on the hottest day this summer it was like 110 and after running the engine for awhile in normal driving conditions, and at high speed i put my hand over the pipe and it was so cold i could have refridgerated beer in the pipe, and i am so serious. and i even have a black car where i actually took the hood temperature of 192 degrees!

you dont have to worry about water because you can buy it with a splash guard, and as long as you dont drive your car into a lake the engine splash guard will be just fine. injen does look much better, and is made out of a better material that resists heat better. if you want performance, you get functionality.

and for stupid people you can tell them its your turbo pipe!

 

[PhyschoMP3]

yea there are a lot of stupid people like one guy came up to me when I had my hood poped fixing something and he was all nice intake bar. I was like what? and he pointed to the strut. THen I was all oh yea thanks. And kinda ignored him then he goes on to point out that my car is twin turbo, he's pointing at the stock intake manifold. Lol. ANd so I tell him it hits a 10sec 1/4 mile with like 500 hp. HAHAHA it was fun. I love dumb people

 

[CanMP5]

Had a question?

In the winter time I regularly go to a "touchless" car wash, cause salt's a b**** on cars. But with the set up of the M/T AEM short ram over the tranny, I noticed an opening at the bottom. My question is, if the bottom sprayers @ the car wash get to the filter element,is that enough for hydrolock or not?

Anyone know from experience?

 

[ZiO]

Re: AEM blows

injen does look much better, and is made out of a better material that resists heat better. if you want performance, you get functionality.

and for stupid people you can tell them its your turbo pipe!

the AEM, ractive, and injen are all made from the same material.... aluminum mandrel bent tubing....

 

[Pro5OnSpeed]

oh?

then why are the injens colder then the aem, and why do all the manufacturers have different performances on the same block in the exact same test conditions? just curious....

 

[ZiO]

I never knew you could feel a difference in the pipe between the two... i am assuming you used BOTH on the SAME CAR under the SAME TEST CONDITIONS..... not to mention that there isno more thatn +-1 or 2 hp between the two company claims.... and who says they call eachother so they know eachothers test conditions and that both companies use the SAME CAR.. not same MAKE of car... but SAME CAR.... if we both put our p5 back to stock... i am sure me and you would get different hp and torque values even if we used the same dyno tester.... and our location will make a difference as well.
hope that helps.

 

[Pro5OnSpeed]

i did some more reading and they did use the SAME dyno, on the SAME car, with the SAME block. all they did was swap out the CAI, or short ram. with the exact same testion conditions.

and yes test differences would occur in different places on the globe. i would stick with the injen.

 

[pingdum]

My .02 is that I do think the CAI delivers more power, even AEM has admitted this and now makes a CAI. But unless your car is only for racing there are other factors. A car in the real world needs higher dependablity. To me ANY chance of hydro-lock is too much.
The same reason I wouldn't slam my car too much. Sure it's great on the track, but a driveway is a major obstacle.

 

[Phoenix5]

OK, you guys might think this is a stupid question but what about maintenance.Can I clean the CAI or do I have to buy another filter??

 

[jrodhotrod]

OK, you guys might think this is a stupid question but what about maintenance.Can I clean the CAI or do I have to buy another filter??

You can clean the filter that comes with the Injen using a K&N filter cleaning kit. Just clean and it oil it.

 

[Phoenix5]

Cool!!Thanx!!!