AEM short ram+ Dragon filter+ weapon r ram air & heat sheild

[Nick]

This has got to be the best performing setup I have seen and tried to date.

The AEM short ram connected to the dragon filter and 100% sealed with the heat shield from weapon R and using the ram air from weapon R, has made the temps drop and the amount of power is amazing.

I live in southern Florida and the intake has to be at least half the temp of the plastic on the engine., Its barely even warm and its 90 plus degrees here everyday.

I am truly impressed.

 

[DooMer_MP3]

I understand the AEM + filter + heat shield. But how do you add the weaponR "ram air" to that combo? Isn't the AEM a ram air intake? Pics might help . Good to hear its doing something for ya!

Chris

 

[Nick]

nope, the ram air, its a scoop with piping that connects to the heat shield and creates a air tight seal around the Dragon filter.

Once you start moving it also creates pressure and free power.

http://www.weapon-r.com/main2.html

 

[DooMer_MP3]

Nick,
Ok cool thanks for the link. I think I understand now . If you can ever post pictures I'm sure it'll help everyone, especially with the ram air intake mounting location. So how much total did you pay for everything then? How much is the ram air kit + filter + shield all together? I just saw the ram air kit and heat shield for $75 and $50 respectively.

Although enticing, I still think I'll be ditching any small upgrades and save for the BEGI turbo kit. Maybe some GCs for looks, but thats it! WShades turbo videos with the BEGI kit on protegeclub.com are enough for me to say screw NA .

Chris

 

[PhyschoMP3]

did you put your 3" tube threw that hole infront of the left tire?

 

[PhyschoMP3]

where did you get the heat shield I went to that site and is it the cold air box? Because I didnt see that they made that for the mp3. Thanks could you post pictures of your set up

 

[Nick]

Here is a link which shows the heat sheild, it in the far right corner.

I ran the tubing from the scoop up through the scoop that is right in front of the transmission, in the splash pan of the car.

http://www.weapon-r.com/ramair.html


I will try to get some picts up.


This setup would be great for any application turbo or not.

 

[70]

Where is the ram air part mounted??

You might not be getting any positive pressure in that area to get any real help from the ram air effect.

 

[Nick]

It is mounted almost dead center, about 3 inches back from the forward most edge of the front lip.

It also hangs down about 1/2" and then the actual scoop is right around 2 inchs.

I know this setup works, because I didn't have the clamps on tight enough and it blew them right off, from the pressure building up. Of course this only happened after 60 mph.

 

[70]

But is the pressure negative or postive airflow?

It could break becuase of either one.

 

[Nick]

I assume it was positive, being it blew the piping apart and not collasped it.

 

[Kooldino]

Post pics, get it dynoed!

Or at least draw us a diagram.

 

[Nick]

Here is a quick side view I drew.

The blue is the out line of the car.

Sorry its so sloppy.

 

[PhyschoMP3]

Ok I went by the local performance shop they said to stay away from the weapon R stuff. They said that the K & N works better on the AEM than the AEM with weapon R filter. So yea. I still want to try that. You could go get your car dynoed and put a fan infront of that ram air to simulate like you were driving. I think that you have positive power going threw that hose.

 

[Nick]

You can't use a K&N fliter, I tried that, the heat shield doesn't fit completely over the filter and doesn't seal up air tight.


The dragon filter, has a treaded hole in the center/top of the fliter, which you tread a bolt through the heat shield right into the top of the filter, and you also have another nut and bolt which help seal up the back side of the heat sheild

 

[kP_mx6]

sounds like a good set up, looks very close to cold air intake, if that ram air console works good. i have heard bad stuff about weapon R stuff too like physchomp3 said. good job tho on the unique set up

 

[CharlieP5]

In Theory, Its a perfect setup.
Now I would like to see how far are you willing to test your theory. Who knows maybe it will give you more horsepower than the injen, but then again who knows?

Are you planning on Dynoing your car?

 

[PhyschoMP3]

Wouldnt a dyno not work because it wouldnt have the air being forced at the filter so wouldnt it just restrict air flow? Well yea

 

[70]

You can always test acceleration times...

What I mean is, run the car stock from 20 mph to 70 mph. Time it.

Then add your intake, time it. Then add the ram air and time it. If it helps, you should see a noticeable difference in your acceleration times from 20 to 70 mph...

Sure you won't get a horsepower number, but it will show that the part has made an improvement over stock.

 

[CharlieP5]

Wouldnt a dyno not work because it wouldnt have the air being forced at the filter so wouldnt it just restrict air flow? Well yea

Actually they usually have industrial type fans to put right in front of your engine. This will help the fresh air flow.

Remember no matter how much air you ram into an engine (if it is not forced induction) the engine will suck in the air it needs no more no less. What a ram air does is provide colder air directly from outside the engine bay. You will never get the positive lb/ft from a ram air that you will get from a turbo.The air coming into the engine is dictated by the camshaft profile (duration of intake valves) The horsepower from a CAI or a Ram Air Intake comes from lowering the air temperature thats going into the engine and from eliminating the restrictive intake hoses that come attached to the throttle body designed to resonate not to create horsepower.(redp5)

If it's a good set up it will work well on a dyno and better on the streets.