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<speedwagon>
This is a great bang for the buck. The p5 gets louder and throatier. at 3k to 4k rpms you reall notice extra pull fron the engine. If any one needs help installing lemme know.
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grim013
Is this w/ stock exhaust? or do you have an aftermarket exhaust installed?
- Miker
- Miker
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<speedwagon>
I have a TRR stainless muffler with a stock pipe and cat.
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brennan
how does the aem compare to the injen?
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brennan
how does the aem compare to the injen?
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Korey Chaos
Yeah i heard that the AEM was better which means im more than likely gonna get it. I just want to know if there is a better hp gain. Im working with a Ractive muffler which already kicks ass so let me know.
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GReddy917
No to rain on your parade...but what exactly makes you say that the AEM is better than the Injen? Or is it just hearsay...if it is...then you must not have spoken to any of the Injen runners.
I know guys that bought the AEM or the MHP and have decided to switch to the Injen after spending all that money...a word of advice...spend a little more and get a better product with the Injen...
I know guys that bought the AEM or the MHP and have decided to switch to the Injen after spending all that money...a word of advice...spend a little more and get a better product with the Injen...
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PrOtEgE5iVe
GReddy917, WOW!! You are fu!#in' happening! What the hell do you do, you surely did not waste time!'
If I read correctly, your P5 is Pure White???
Maybe because I am CDN, but they don't make it in white?????????
Verify please...
Himansu
If I read correctly, your P5 is Pure White???
Maybe because I am CDN, but they don't make it in white?????????
Verify please...
Himansu
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roswel
like you said it's because your cdn. they have white in the states. unfortunatley they don't offer it here to the north or else i might have gotten it. it looks sweet.
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HODGE
Are there any other colours that Canadians are not privy to getting? Why would they not offer the same colours world wide?
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greddy917
Yeah...I have had my P5 since beginning of August 2001. It was one of the FIRST "pure whites" that came out...simply beautiful.
If you are in the States on April 27th (Sat) you can see her...she will be in Hot Import Nights in San Mateo CA. Look for her in the Mazda booth...yes, thats right guys...sponsored by Mazda USA.
If you are in the States on April 27th (Sat) you can see her...she will be in Hot Import Nights in San Mateo CA. Look for her in the Mazda booth...yes, thats right guys...sponsored by Mazda USA.
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Shawn
Greddy:
I have read equally many posts about people who had the Injen but switched to the AEM because they preferred it. Personally, I have neither right now, I'm stock. But you have the Injen so you can't be too objective about this because your going to defend the product you own. There are reports that protege's don't register cold air properly and therefore CAI is no better than a short ram. Then there is talk that the protege doesn't like warm air. Well, cold air can be obtained with both a CAI and short ram if properly located. There has been a "rumor" made by many ricers that CAI's are vastly superior to short rams but it totally depends on the application of the system. To generally say a CAI is a superior product is generalizing far too much.
Simply, AEM owners will say AEM is better, Injen owners will say Injen is better. Both will have equally strong sounding arguments to promote their product or shoot down the other. My thought, as long as the filter is placed wisely in the engine bay, it will receive air that is just as cold as any air to be found in a small little fender well. That's my view of things. Both products will work equally well. Both will be a large improvement over the stock intake. I don't think a dyno will show one to be better than the other.
I have read equally many posts about people who had the Injen but switched to the AEM because they preferred it. Personally, I have neither right now, I'm stock. But you have the Injen so you can't be too objective about this because your going to defend the product you own. There are reports that protege's don't register cold air properly and therefore CAI is no better than a short ram. Then there is talk that the protege doesn't like warm air. Well, cold air can be obtained with both a CAI and short ram if properly located. There has been a "rumor" made by many ricers that CAI's are vastly superior to short rams but it totally depends on the application of the system. To generally say a CAI is a superior product is generalizing far too much.
Simply, AEM owners will say AEM is better, Injen owners will say Injen is better. Both will have equally strong sounding arguments to promote their product or shoot down the other. My thought, as long as the filter is placed wisely in the engine bay, it will receive air that is just as cold as any air to be found in a small little fender well. That's my view of things. Both products will work equally well. Both will be a large improvement over the stock intake. I don't think a dyno will show one to be better than the other.
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Jester999
I have the stock box, and im all about it. I would say that my product is also just as good Show me some dyno results then maybe, just maybe ill believe you crazy aftermarket folk 
hahahahaha
Show me some dyno results then maybe, just maybe ill believe you crazy aftermarket folk hahahahaha
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zulu
By the way, you can now get WHITE P5s in Canada.You have never seen them because they weren't released until later and most of the guys I talked to at Mazda dealerships said they thought that it wouldn't be very popular.
I don't think they thought about someone buying one because they are cheaper to paint a different colour.(or they just like white)
I don't think they thought about someone buying one because they are cheaper to paint a different colour.(or they just like white)
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GReddy917
Believe it or not...some ricers can actually have the right information...in a weird sort of way
If you are saying that cold air intakes do not always increase the efficiency of engines then you very well may be right.However, if you are saying that enabling an engine to breathe dense cooler charged air does not always increase its efficiency then you are misinformed.
As far as applications that would not work well with cold air setups.. they are supercharged and turbocharged engine configurations...Mainly because these setups cause an intake of more air than the naturally aspirated setups do...so, in laymans terms...the most direct access to air is the best for these configurations. That is why all the turbo cars you see practically run a filter right into intake of the compressor housing and some no filter at all. Also, Oscar Jackson of JR recommends that a relatively short intake pipe be used in conjunction with his supercharger units. Less pipe = better supercharger/turbocharger efficiency.
If you are NA then feeding you engine colder air is simply a must if you want efficient power...even boosted cars run intercoolers/powercoolers/water injection and also N20 to move the intake air temp down.
As far as Injen/Aem...Both companies are reputable...and Im sure both intake systems are beneficial to use.
Of course the configuration of the intake is not what matters...what matters is if it will deliver the right volume of colder air efficiently
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<Shawn>
I meant the first one. You are totally right but what I was thinking was that we don't know that the air in the fender well is any colder than the air down near the tranny where the AEM is located. There are not really any openings going into that well but there are many slots and openings going into the engine bay where quick moving, cooler air could flow. Maybe this makes the air in parts of the engine bay colder than in the fender well or doesn't make a difference at all.
I wonder about how these companies making short rams choose where to place the filter. For example, the AEM short ram for the 99+ 1.8L Pro's and 00+ 2.0L auto tranny Pro's places the filter right above the opening where the Injen CAI drops into(so I'm told by Mitch at Protege5online). That seems like a pretty smart place to put a short ram in the engine bay.However, when they made a newer one for the 00+ 2.0L 5 speed they decided to change and put the filter down low near the tranny. Did they actually research to decide on this location or just cover their eye's and point at a spot in the engine bay? It seemed like the previous location was a pretty good place to leave the filter, as close to a CAI as possible but one less 90 degree bend in the piping. I wonder why they changed it
is it actually better?
Anyway, for NA engines, colder is better. But where is the coldest air?
I wonder about how these companies making short rams choose where to place the filter. For example, the AEM short ram for the 99+ 1.8L Pro's and 00+ 2.0L auto tranny Pro's places the filter right above the opening where the Injen CAI drops into(so I'm told by Mitch at Protege5online). That seems like a pretty smart place to put a short ram in the engine bay.However, when they made a newer one for the 00+ 2.0L 5 speed they decided to change and put the filter down low near the tranny. Did they actually research to decide on this location or just cover their eye's and point at a spot in the engine bay? It seemed like the previous location was a pretty good place to leave the filter, as close to a CAI as possible but one less 90 degree bend in the piping. I wonder why they changed it
is it actually better?Anyway, for NA engines, colder is better. But where is the coldest air?
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Racer 5
I have an idea, one that I have wondered about for awhile. Let me try to explain.
Our Stock intake box, with that elaborate duct work that has the intake port right near the hood catch~~everyone with me? The rubber gasket that is on the hood goes over that, so the intake air is being sucked through tiny holes in the top of thye front grill. You may have to go out and look to see what I am talking about.
If you were to dremel out the plastic piece right beneath the intake port, on the top of the grill, you will basically have a "ram air" induction. like I said, you may have to go and look to see what I mean. you cannot remove just that top plastic piece, the grill is one molded piece. But if you were to remove that plastic by cutting it out, you will be recieving cold ramming air right through the front grill. With a drop in K&N panel filter, this "should be" more effective than any AEM or Injen product. Let me know what you think.
My only problem is cutting it, i really don't want to hack it, and make it look screwed up. but I do have the capacity to make rubber surrounds for the cut. Water induction will not be a problem, that is what all of the wierd depressions are for in the duct work. Like I said let me know what your guys take is on this.
Our Stock intake box, with that elaborate duct work that has the intake port right near the hood catch~~everyone with me? The rubber gasket that is on the hood goes over that, so the intake air is being sucked through tiny holes in the top of thye front grill. You may have to go out and look to see what I am talking about.
If you were to dremel out the plastic piece right beneath the intake port, on the top of the grill, you will basically have a "ram air" induction. like I said, you may have to go and look to see what I mean. you cannot remove just that top plastic piece, the grill is one molded piece. But if you were to remove that plastic by cutting it out, you will be recieving cold ramming air right through the front grill. With a drop in K&N panel filter, this "should be" more effective than any AEM or Injen product. Let me know what you think.
My only problem is cutting it, i really don't want to hack it, and make it look screwed up. but I do have the capacity to make rubber surrounds for the cut. Water induction will not be a problem, that is what all of the wierd depressions are for in the duct work. Like I said let me know what your guys take is on this.
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<<Bill_Stats>>
Hey Racer 5,
That sounds very appealing, spend zero dollars and recieve most of the benefits.
Let me know if you do it and how well it worked!!
Way to think outside of the "box"!!
That sounds very appealing, spend zero dollars and recieve most of the benefits.
Let me know if you do it and how well it worked!!
Way to think outside of the "box"!!
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Racer 5
Thanks, It comes from my engineering education, lol. Like a teacher once told me~~ "an engineer can do for one dollar for what anyone else can do for two." So, all that $$ on education finally paid off for something ~~~ I'm gonna go have a beer!
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MazdaMP3.com
Has anyone tried just the k&n filter in the stock box? I believe I read this in a VW 1.8t forum...people found the best results with using just a drop-in filter. May just work better for that turbo 4 from VW...
It would be great is someone went to the dyno with all the intake systems offered and tested them all under the same conditions!
It would be great is someone went to the dyno with all the intake systems offered and tested them all under the same conditions!
