Advice on how to make crazy HP...

[akeem1003]

And even though 505zoom is boosting with the stock internals, what other mods has he done to his/her car? I know he has to be running a good exhaust system and some type of EMS or Fuel Management System, right?

 

[akeem1003]

One other question, If I get an EMS, how many pounds of boost can I run with the stock turbo and stock intercooler?

 

[kicker22705]

thats completely up to you and your car. people have blown engines at stock boost, and some have gone as high as 22psi on stock turbo, ic, internals, w/ no ems like a champ.

has a some to do w/ tuning, and a lot to do w/ luck!

 

[apocman]

MPI, with extra injectors
MPNick stock turbo upgrade stage 1 or stage 2
Built MPNick tranny
Built MPNick engine
FMIC, hardpipes, with BOV
Ion or GHL Turbo back 3" exhaust
EBC set to 22-25PSI
Some gauges
few other little items

mix it all together and say a prayer and there you have it...

 

[JBreed]

Built Engine + EMS + FMIC + EBC + extra injectors... Good Tuning = huge hp gains!

 

[pluto316]

I also agree, get a better car.

 

[lcruz64]

Ok. Tonight, I was driving home from hanging out with my friends and this SRT-4 pulls up beside me. I wanted to race him just to see how I would do up against one so I did. Turns out this wasn't an ordinary SRT-4. That thing hauled ass. When I got a chance to talk to the driver, he said that he upgraded to a much bigger turbo than the stock one and drove away. That did it. So now, I want to know what turbo and engine upgrade I should go with to make some crazy HP. Help me out people.

Here is a list of parts and prices what will be needed for a 400whp build. Please keep inmind these are the parts that I RECOMMEND.


Mental Addiction built shortblock. $2995
Topline gasket set $275
ARP head studs $139
Ported/Polished head, SS valves roughly $1200
RC 650cc or larger injectors $450+
Mental Addiction Stage 3 fuel system $639
Mental Addiciton Thumper turbo kit with intercooler upgrade $4495 plus $300 upgrade(puts you in a 8" tall core.Bumper needs to be notched).
AEM EMS with 5 bar Map sensor $1895 plus $129 for MAP
AWR motor mounts $160
Ron Davis Radiator $489
Spec Stage 3 full face clutch $589
Spec Aluminum Flywheel $389
Quaife LSD with hardware $1750
tranny cooler,lines, pump,etc roughly $500
Axles $600

This pretty much covers Engine, Cooling, EMS and tranny.

Crazy HP

 

[sweetlou69]

agree shortblock and some good tuning... get some major bolt ons and the shortblock and just boost like 18psi out of the t-25... itll def haul some ass

 

[pluto316]

<img src="http://www.loti.com/60s_muscle_cars/Buick-Muscle/1987_BUICK_REGAL_GNX.JPG">

There, you just beat a SRT-4, plus look better while doing it.

 

[Spooled]

~$17,000 for all those mods...

 

[the_saint]

(mswerd)
*In reference to the GN

 

[pluto316]

~$17,000 for a Buick Grand National GNX and slicks.

 

[Puckpimp71]

A GNX will probably cost more than $50,000 if you can find one.

 

[lcruz64]

And is not meant to be a daily driver. Complicated mess I'm in.

 

[pluto316]

A GNX will probably cost more than $50,000 if you can find one.

Dude, a GNX is worth like $5k.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...&advanced=&isp=y&start_year=1981&cardist=1307

It's an 1986 Buick.

 

[HiBoost TS]

We have the Regular kit good for 330 WHP, the Big Boost kit with different turbo options ( GT28R, GT28RS, GT30R) that will make BIG HP.

Then you need a built bottom end. Our systems come with the Haltech E6X engine management, fuel injectors ready to bolt on.

You can make good power without spending that much money. You need about $6500.00 to run 12 sec and make 320+ WHP

HiBoost Big Boost turbo kit $4,800.00 (includes Haltech E6X, injectors, GT30R turbo, Tial Wastegate)

Forged internals: $1,200.00

Clutch $400.00

Here is the link for our run with the basic kit. We still are to test the car with the BIG BOOST kit.


http://www.msprotege.com/members/HiBoost%20TS/HiBoost%20P5%20in%20Action1.wmv

 

[Mallard]

Dude, a GNX is worth like $5k.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...&advanced=&isp=y&start_year=1981&cardist=1307

It's an 1986 Buick.

Um...no. A GN is i believe what you are talking about. A GNX is an uber-rare version of the Grand National only produced in 1987 and there were only a few hundred made. Definately fetches a premium.

The 87 GN and T-Type are the only one's worth buying anyway. The "hot air" cars sucked.

 

[pluto316]

The difference now between a GN and GNX is very nill, but you are correct, I was talking about the GN. That being said, same car (for the most part) and you can get one for less than $10k.

 

[Mallard]

I'd have to disagree that the difference is nill.

Buick handed the car over to ASC/McLaren Specialty Products. McLaren added a special Garrett turbocharger, lightweight ceramic impeller, and a better intercooler. A modified computer chip and a low restriction exhuast rounded out the power upgrades. To handle the extra power the transmission was improved for better shifts and the torque converter was upgraded. On the exterior, the GNX got fender flares and side vents that helped cool the engine. The Grand National's wheels were upgraded to 16-inch alloys, and the tires were wider to help put the power down on the road. Lastly, GNX badges replaced the Grand National identification on the grill and trunk. Only 547 GNX's were ever made.

But, yes, a GN or T-type is the cheapest way to go fast. My friend sold his T-Type in the spring and could only get 10k for it. It ran mid 10's to low 11's.

 

[geomatics_tech]

I would buy a built block or forged internals, fmic, 3" exhaust, mpi, fuel system and your going to need a clutch. The stock turbo will get you the #'s you want.