Add one more: motor fell

lol i havent heard of a GTI having the engine fall out....besides chill stealth I am here as a perspective owner, just seein whats what. I AINT TROLLIN so dont be a cock smoker. I wont be buying a car for a year or so and for right now its beetween the GTI (which I like) and MS3. Its not a question of wanting to like ms3...I love it, I like it more than the GTI, but dont act like the god damn engine falling out is your average problem. I cant think of a problem i have read about on an audi or vw that is nearly as dangerous as the issue above. IT IS ****** UP THAT MAZDA HAS DONE NOTHING. Thats all im saying, dont take it out on me.
 
mattleegee said:
Mazda doesnt really have control of dealerships customer service, they are for the most part independant

Uh...they send them the cars...they dont give them the car, there is no dealer. A dealer behaving in this manor is simply unacceptable. I am willing to bet mazda knows very well about this problem and it is a huge problem imho. If mazda was a moral company they would have made sure all the dealers know how to handle this situation respectably, and made it clear on how to handle this.
 
maybemazda said:
I love it, I like it more than the GTI, but dont act like the god damn engine falling out is your average problem. I cant think of a problem i have read about on an audi or vw that is nearly as dangerous as the issue above.

True, it's a bad problem, but the numbers are so small. Even if the dealership refuses to fix this at no cost, this type of problem qualifies your car under the lemon law, you can just give it back, get 100% of what you paid returned and get a new one. There's really no loss for us. Mazda is eating it and we still get a really f'in fun car to drive.
 
BuckDich said:
True, it's a bad problem, but the numbers are so small. Even if the dealership refuses to fix this at no cost, this type of problem qualifies your car under the lemon law, you can just give it back, get 100% of what you paid returned and get a new one. There's really no loss for us. Mazda is eating it and we still get a really f'in fun car to drive.

Its not about the getting screwed at the dealer, its about having your engine falling out while your going 60 and causing an accident. It scares me to know it can POSSIBLY fall out. WTF, other modern cars dont do that. If you buy a fast car, you are asking for problems, I accept that. Buying any car is pretty much a bad financial decision unless you need one to get to work. Pisses me off because it seems like a very easy problem to fix and it puts a blemish on an otherwise awsome deal.
 
Well, they get no points for politness still in my book, but my car was repaired and back to normal and detailed and ready for me to pick up in 24 hours. The service service manager was like, "Your here to pick your car up, there's no way! I saw it yesterday, that should at least take a couple days." Upon picking my car up they were entirely a different dealer after they were contacted by Mazda directly, it doesn't make up for their previous actions but if every visit could have been like today I would have nothing bad to say about them. Alas, though this did happen, and I'm sure more down the road with more power it will bring up more problems that will be harder to have fixed under warrenty repair, I still love my car absolutly. Nobody should be disuaded from getting one in my opinion.
 
member from the different forum , I'm getting pissed off at this kind of post and Mazda is not doing anything


So if you been a victim of the Broken Mount please report it to the NHTSA


Can you contact Nhtsa report this matter. the person who's looking at this matter is STEVE number is (202)366-8537,
 
OK I agree a bad motor mount SHOULD never happen, and Delaers Should treat customers better, but face it people, its not a perfect world. How many times has a dealer seen a car come in for warranty and KNEW the car was badly abused and modded only to come back dead stock with a blown engine or what not.
I do believe Mazda Should investigate the motor mount, but my question was NEVER ANSWERED. DID THE BOLT FAIL ???? Or did it fall out. theres a huge difference.

As for the " LIST " of MS3 issues, well What are they????
Other than the motor mount and possible one shock failure
what else is there???? i don't recall anything else... might be more
 
Typical American mentality these days.
One dealer somewhere has a bad service manager and well hell its the Corporations Fault, and i want something because of it.

MAZDA fixed the motor mount under warranty, DIDN'T THEY? so how is mazda "not doing" anything about it. they told him he should get a rental car and i'm sure he could have or did get it.
SO how did mazda NOT do anything?
The service mangaer was a prick, so what....... we don't know the whole story. I'm not saying ZOOM ZOOM did anything, but heck maybe his attitude going in was bad. Hell maybe the SM was just having a bad week. IT HAPPENS to all of us. Get over it and move on. The cars fixed and Zoomzoom is happy again. End of story.

ZOOM ZOOM ..... Did you ever inspect your bolt before???
 
maybemazda said:
Its not about the getting screwed at the dealer, its about having your engine falling out while your going 60 and causing an accident. It scares me to know it can POSSIBLY fall out. WTF, other modern cars dont do that. If you buy a fast car, you are asking for problems, I accept that. Buying any car is pretty much a bad financial decision unless you need one to get to work. Pisses me off because it seems like a very easy problem to fix and it puts a blemish on an otherwise awsome deal.

The motor does not FALL OUT of the car. One of the motor mounts fails, causing the engine to drop an inch or two on that side. You sound like you think that the motor completely detaches from the car and falls to the ground.
 
SwampAss said:
the intake manifold runner control solenoid, but that wasn't a big deal.


Yeap your right, but see how insignifigant it was... hell i couldn't even remember it. Easy fix turned on a CEL, big deal car still drove fine.

MAYBEMAZDA.................. Your like the Associated press of America Spreading bulls*** EVERYWHERE................STFU.

Reading your posts makes me want to smack you in the mouth for even opening it. In all your posts you said nothing usefull, but sure spread some more bulls***. You don't own a MS3 yet, why do you care if the engine "falls out". Prespective buyer........... Yea ok. YOU show me one car in the world that was in its first year of production and didn't have issues.
Hell the new ford trucks have a recall for exhaust pipes catching s*** on fire. Better not buy that truck, Might burn down the cardboard box you call home. People like you are the reason the pinto got a bad reputation as the car that Blows up when rearended.
Opinions are just that, and IMO you need to SHUT THE **** UP (cheers) Cheers Buddy. :D
 
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The known issues are:

P2006: IMRC valve, it's not affecting anything and fixed easily
X????: Purge Valve, this time again not affecting anything and known fix
1 blown shock, still 1 but on 20000 its not much
Gas cap CEL, rumored but i never had any confirmation of it
5 Dropped motor, this one is the worse but i read somewhere that mazda know the issue. I saw that there should be 2 washers on those bolts and some care have only 1

Its not that bad
 
justa4banger said:
Yeap your right, but see how insignifigant it was... hell i couldn't even remember it. Easy fix turned on a CEL, big deal car still drove fine.

MAYBEMAZDA.................. Your like the Associated press of America Spreading bulls*** EVERYWHERE................STFU.

Reading your posts makes me want to smack you in the mouth for even opening it. In all your posts you said nothing usefull, but sure spread some more bulls***. You don't own a MS3 yet, why do you care if the engine "falls out". Prespective buyer........... Yea ok. YOU show me one car in the world that was in its first year of production and didn't have issues.
Hell the new ford trucks have a recall for exhaust pipes catching s*** on fire. Better not buy that truck, Might burn down the cardboard box you call home. People like you are the reason the pinto got a bad reputation as the car that Blows up when rearended.
Opinions are just that, and IMO you need to SHUT THE **** UP (cheers) Cheers Buddy. :D

Hush child....jesus, unchecked aggression. I am a possible future buyer, and dont talk s*** because your angry that your car has a ****** up problem. All my posts have been legit. I do want this car, I want you to convince me that the engine mount problem is not a problem. Cardboard box for a home? WTF are you even talking about? Are you a halfwit? Dont whine because you are angry about people talking s*** about this problem. You dont have to get personal and now you are talking about smacking me? STFU you need to be cracked in the face dont talk like a fool it makes you look dumb when you say things like this. BTW guy with kermitt thing for avtar, I dont know SO much about cars and I am aware that it only falls a bit and if thats the case that does make me feel better about this car. 4banger your a ******* idiot, i have not spread s*** anywhere stop being a ******* retard, your so ******* annoying its amazing.
 
I wont shut up till i am satisfied learning about this car and there is nothing you can do, so just calm yourself you will just make yourself cry.
 
you never said when your car was built. ill bet they were all from the same build date.

i got mine in dec and the bolt was tight with loctite on it.
 
jflash said:
you never said when your car was built. ill bet they were all from the same build date.

i got mine in dec and the bolt was tight with loctite on it.

Is it possible to just go in there and tighten the bolts yourself? If so why doesnt everyone just do that?
 
maybemazda said:
Is it possible to just go in there and tighten the bolts yourself? If so why doesnt everyone just do that?

Sure you can tighten them yourself. If you know your dealer is going to do it and do it correctly to your satisfaction then first, I recommend taking it to them. However, if your sketchy and concerned if your dealer is giving you "lip service" then it's very easy and anyone can do it in there garage with the correct tools. The two most important items besides safety is having a torque wrench and locktite. Most I see are using the Red Locktite over the Blue and the bolt torque spec is 66 - 86 ft/lbs. Most are going in the middle with 75/76 ft/lbs which certainly is a safe bet. Also the three mount bolts that bolt into the transmission are the same torque spec. It may be a good idea to do them as well. Lastly, the bolt that goes through the mount itself apparently is required to have two washers on it. If yours does not and you can equally match it up then again it's as simple as a trip to the hardware store. I will look at mine today and check if I have two washers and verify if they are the same type of washers etc.
 
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I checked the bolt a couple months ago after the first and only time I took the car to the track and ran it twice, and it was fine then. I'm not sure the build date on my car but I'll check and get back with ya'll when I'm off work.
 

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