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Acura TSX vs. Mazda 6 (V6)
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I just found this thread, and I don't think I've ever seen someone hop the fence from one side to another and back again in such a short period of time. "that's it, you sold me on the TSX" "that's it, I'm getting the 6". Not putting you down, just reads funny.
Some of you guys are hilarious. From reading this guy's posts, he's already made it clear that test numbers or uncompromising sportiness don't concern him as much as it apparently concerns you all. He just wants a relatively quick family car that won't slog through turns like a pig in s***. It also sounds like he could give two ***** how big the aftermarket is (he can correct me on this if I'm wrong), so you can stop trying to sell him/put him down according to your standards. He told you his options, he conveyed to you his wants/needs, now consult him on the best car for him.
If you buy the 6s, good choice. It's a sporty family sedan that many people seem to like.
Some of you guys are hilarious. From reading this guy's posts, he's already made it clear that test numbers or uncompromising sportiness don't concern him as much as it apparently concerns you all. He just wants a relatively quick family car that won't slog through turns like a pig in s***. It also sounds like he could give two ***** how big the aftermarket is (he can correct me on this if I'm wrong), so you can stop trying to sell him/put him down according to your standards. He told you his options, he conveyed to you his wants/needs, now consult him on the best car for him.
If you buy the 6s, good choice. It's a sporty family sedan that many people seem to like.
A few notes on supposed lack of mazda6 aftermarket support...
1) There are aftermarket cam's available for the 6i, and 6s. The 6s, being a general 3.0 Duratec platform, which was based off the 2.5 duratec platform, has a decent sized aftermarket. Possibly not as much as a honda civic, but there are a great deal of choices.
2) There are 3 companies working on aftermarket intake manifolds for the 6.
3) There are multiple turbo and supercharger companies working on both the 6i and 6s. There is even a twin turbo 6s in development, which is progressing quite nicely.
4) AEM has announced that their EMS system will support the mazda 6.
5) The mazda 6 platform is going to be utilized in over 13 vehicles. Same base chassis. Alot of parts will be cross compatible and interchangable.
6) There is an LSD available for the Mazda 6i, and supposedly one available for the 6s.
7) There are flywheel and clutch packages available for the 6s, and clutch packages available for the 6i.
8) Every major suspension maker has announced support for the mazda 6. Coilovers, springs, and even tein, koni, and blisten shocks.
9) The 6 platform is featured in...
a) NHRA racing.
b) SCCA Pro World
c) Supposedly Rally Racing.
10) There are UDP packages, bushing packages, engine mounts in development, one completed set of headers, with three more for the 6s, and one more for the 6i. About 6-8 different catback/axle back systems. At least four companies currently make brake kits for the 6, as well as the brakes being cross compatible across other mazda lines.
11) Greedy is making parts for the 6. (And has already in Japan, with planned support for the US).
12) The 6 is a AWD and FWD platform, and in europe the AWD variant already exists.
13) There are a variety of chip makers and companies currently working on flashers, and hax0r'ed ecu's for the 6.
Saying the 6 doesn't have an aftermarket is like saying acura doesn't use any honda parts.
1) There are aftermarket cam's available for the 6i, and 6s. The 6s, being a general 3.0 Duratec platform, which was based off the 2.5 duratec platform, has a decent sized aftermarket. Possibly not as much as a honda civic, but there are a great deal of choices.
2) There are 3 companies working on aftermarket intake manifolds for the 6.
3) There are multiple turbo and supercharger companies working on both the 6i and 6s. There is even a twin turbo 6s in development, which is progressing quite nicely.
4) AEM has announced that their EMS system will support the mazda 6.
5) The mazda 6 platform is going to be utilized in over 13 vehicles. Same base chassis. Alot of parts will be cross compatible and interchangable.
6) There is an LSD available for the Mazda 6i, and supposedly one available for the 6s.
7) There are flywheel and clutch packages available for the 6s, and clutch packages available for the 6i.
8) Every major suspension maker has announced support for the mazda 6. Coilovers, springs, and even tein, koni, and blisten shocks.
9) The 6 platform is featured in...
a) NHRA racing.
b) SCCA Pro World
c) Supposedly Rally Racing.
10) There are UDP packages, bushing packages, engine mounts in development, one completed set of headers, with three more for the 6s, and one more for the 6i. About 6-8 different catback/axle back systems. At least four companies currently make brake kits for the 6, as well as the brakes being cross compatible across other mazda lines.
11) Greedy is making parts for the 6. (And has already in Japan, with planned support for the US).
12) The 6 is a AWD and FWD platform, and in europe the AWD variant already exists.
13) There are a variety of chip makers and companies currently working on flashers, and hax0r'ed ecu's for the 6.
Saying the 6 doesn't have an aftermarket is like saying acura doesn't use any honda parts.
crossbow said:Saying the 6 doesn't have an aftermarket is like saying acura doesn't use any honda parts.
Apparently were not all up to speed on the aftermarket list as you are. LOL!!
(hah) hehe, sorry, I had to laugh at that nickname you gave them, intentional or otherwise.crossbow said:11) Greedy is making parts for the 6.
You are not allowed to buy a 6 either. We do not allow people with low IQ's to own this car. Keep you B2300 and dream of what you could own if you only had half a brain.BinaryRotary said:I don't have a 6 you moron. Before you say what I should sell, maybe you should know what I have n00b.
Think before you make ignorant useless posts.
Kain said:I just found this thread, and I don't think I've ever seen someone hop the fence from one side to another and back again in such a short period of time. "that's it, you sold me on the TSX" "that's it, I'm getting the 6". Not putting you down, just reads funny.QUOTE]
I'm just that way. At that time it still wasnt a final decision
BlueMonsta
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ashutoshsm said:Ha Ha @ Replica.
Too many problems with your post and your interpretations/insinuations. Where do I even begin?
- MOST owners want a car that is fun to drive, stock, and doesn't cost an arm and a couple of legs. The 6 delivers, the TSX doesn't
- The RSX-S and WRX are small, cramped econoboxes. Pointless to bring them into THIS comparison. In a raw performance-only comparison, that's for a different thread ...
- The motor is not a reworked Taurus motor, as muchas you want to claim that. The engine block (big chunky lump of metal - Aluminium in this case) is the same as the 3.0 Taurus Duratec (which, incidentally, is Ford's most reliable engine ever), and the entire head, with variable timing and lots of other goodies, is Mazda-designed. In my book - that alone makes it a Mazda engine. Or a Mazda take on a good workhorse engine that is good enough for a Jaguar!
Your implication by support is that numerous easy steps to drastically improve the K series engine's performance are available. Untrue. Any mods that result in serious improvement require lots of work, as is the case in the 6. Availability is higher for Honda vehicles (all those sheep buying them and being dissatisfied with the stock performance, must help!), but it isn't lacking (for the 6) either. With headers, exhausts, AEM and other plug-in chips, MAF management systems, CAIs, valves/cams, LSD and a frikkin' twin turbo for the V6 (and a rumored turbo kit or two for the 6i) either already available or mere weeks away from availability, the 6 owner is not lacking in the availability of options. If ALL these parts were to be added to a 6, I'd call that owner quite stupid to not have bought a pricier car with many of these options/features available as stock, and build up from there instead! So its already overkill!
And don't debase yourself by bringing body kits, dahs gauges and interior trim crap into this discussion. I don't give a flying ^%^&^ about those!
The aftermarket is realizing that it pays to develop parts for a package that is already good from the factory, even with a smaller market! 'Other' marques require way more work to approach the ocombined level of refinement and performance, while satisfying the same expectations put forth by the typical 6 owner!
http://www2.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56563
check that thread out... its a mazda 3 forum, but talks abit about the 6 as well. It talks about ford and mazda relationship.
If you dun plan of getting the GFX package for the mazda 6, get the TSX...
I can't recall more typical BS ricer talk, then I have seen here.
Rather then qoute the stupidy I'll try to keep it on the postive.
Both the 6 and the TSX are great cars. Personal preference is the desiding factor, in most catigories they are very close. The 6 has more torque grunt, while the TSX has the VTEC kick and high RPM fun. Nither is really a strength or a weakness, just a difference.
The TSX felt better designed to me as the Mazda 6 used the same style plastic dash, sprayed painted silver, that far to many cars use these days. Most people wouldn't even care about this but this is simply a personal preference that really seperates these cars.
The TSX will certainly cost more but it will have a higher resale value and will stand the test of time longer. You pay for honda reliability and to many people thats very important. The Mazda 6 has and will likley hold up very well, the safe bets just not on it to out last the TSX. On this subjest, the part to probably fail last will be the engine block of the 6. There is a reason Ford's subsidiary companies use the 3.0L block, it designed and built extreamly well. It may not be the best block in the world but it surely isn't the worst and it can eacily match 90% of the import companies offerings. As mentioned before, Mazda used the block and designed and built the rest of the engine themselves.
Aftermarket support exist for each car and will continue to grow. I was actualy suprised to see all the parts available for the 6 and I was looking at them almost a year ago.
Either car handles well, the 6 will take most of the test in this catagory but that also comes with the expense of the TSX's luxury ride. Although these cars are compeditors, they were built to fill slightly different roles. To argue like this over two cars is redicoulous. Simply choce what you like better and stop thinking a car or worse yet a car company is something to pride full of becuase you happen to be a fan of it. Owning a mazda as apposed to a Honda does not make you cool, intelligent and will not make your dick bigger, so tuck your dorks back in an stop the prick war.
On a side note, the Impreza is much larger inside then the RSX, larger then the protege and is close to the interior space of the TSX or the 6.
Rather then qoute the stupidy I'll try to keep it on the postive.
Both the 6 and the TSX are great cars. Personal preference is the desiding factor, in most catigories they are very close. The 6 has more torque grunt, while the TSX has the VTEC kick and high RPM fun. Nither is really a strength or a weakness, just a difference.
The TSX felt better designed to me as the Mazda 6 used the same style plastic dash, sprayed painted silver, that far to many cars use these days. Most people wouldn't even care about this but this is simply a personal preference that really seperates these cars.
The TSX will certainly cost more but it will have a higher resale value and will stand the test of time longer. You pay for honda reliability and to many people thats very important. The Mazda 6 has and will likley hold up very well, the safe bets just not on it to out last the TSX. On this subjest, the part to probably fail last will be the engine block of the 6. There is a reason Ford's subsidiary companies use the 3.0L block, it designed and built extreamly well. It may not be the best block in the world but it surely isn't the worst and it can eacily match 90% of the import companies offerings. As mentioned before, Mazda used the block and designed and built the rest of the engine themselves.
Aftermarket support exist for each car and will continue to grow. I was actualy suprised to see all the parts available for the 6 and I was looking at them almost a year ago.
Either car handles well, the 6 will take most of the test in this catagory but that also comes with the expense of the TSX's luxury ride. Although these cars are compeditors, they were built to fill slightly different roles. To argue like this over two cars is redicoulous. Simply choce what you like better and stop thinking a car or worse yet a car company is something to pride full of becuase you happen to be a fan of it. Owning a mazda as apposed to a Honda does not make you cool, intelligent and will not make your dick bigger, so tuck your dorks back in an stop the prick war.
On a side note, the Impreza is much larger inside then the RSX, larger then the protege and is close to the interior space of the TSX or the 6.
BlueMonsta
Member
1sty said:I can't recall more typical BS ricer talk, then I have seen here.
Rather then qoute the stupidy I'll try to keep it on the postive.
Both the 6 and the TSX are great cars. Personal preference is the desiding factor, in most catigories they are very close. The 6 has more torque grunt, while the TSX has the VTEC kick and high RPM fun. Nither is really a strength or a weakness, just a difference.
The TSX felt better designed to me as the Mazda 6 used the same style plastic dash, sprayed painted silver, that far to many cars use these days. Most people wouldn't even care about this but this is simply a personal preference that really seperates these cars.
The TSX will certainly cost more but it will have a higher resale value and will stand the test of time longer. You pay for honda reliability and to many people thats very important. The Mazda 6 has and will likley hold up very well, the safe bets just not on it to out last the TSX. On this subjest, the part to probably fail last will be the engine block of the 6. There is a reason Ford's subsidiary companies use the 3.0L block, it designed and built extreamly well. It may not be the best block in the world but it surely isn't the worst and it can eacily match 90% of the import companies offerings. As mentioned before, Mazda used the block and designed and built the rest of the engine themselves.
Aftermarket support exist for each car and will continue to grow. I was actualy suprised to see all the parts available for the 6 and I was looking at them almost a year ago.
Either car handles well, the 6 will take most of the test in this catagory but that also comes with the expense of the TSX's luxury ride. Although these cars are compeditors, they were built to fill slightly different roles. To argue like this over two cars is redicoulous. Simply choce what you like better and stop thinking a car or worse yet a car company is something to pride full of becuase you happen to be a fan of it. Owning a mazda as apposed to a Honda does not make you cool, intelligent and will not make your dick bigger, so tuck your dorks back in an stop the prick war.
On a side note, the Impreza is much larger inside then the RSX, larger then the protege and is close to the interior space of the TSX or the 6.
yah true... but mazda 6 engine has VVT-I, same thing as I-vtec....
correct me if im wrong
no....please read up on this linkBlueMonsta said:yah true... but mazda 6 engine has VVT-I, same thing as I-vtec....
correct me if im wrong
http://mazda6tech.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=14
The Impreza is not larger on the inside than the Protege. Look at the specs - the Protege has more front and rear leg room, front and rear shoulder room, and more cargo space.1sty said:On a side note, the Impreza is much larger inside then the RSX, larger then the protege and is close to the interior space of the TSX or the 6.
Sorry, back to the thread topic...
Um...can't agree with that. (crazy)BinaryRotary said:Your cars a Ford. Shut up.
Zoom Zoom Zoom
Member
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- Either a Mazda 3 or Mazda 6
Both vehicles are pretty good in their own way. But I would lean more towards the Mazda 6 even though I haven't test driven both vehicles. When it comes to exterior styling, the Mazda 6 has the edge, but to interior styling, the Acura TSX gets my vote. But the main reason why I would choose the Mazda 6 over the TSX is the engine. For me, I can't justify buying a four cylinder entry level luxury sport sedan that requires premium fuel, while every other compeitior in this market has a V6. Besides the Mazda 6 requires regular fuel which will save money at the pump and the car is about $2500 less than the TSX (in Canada). But if the Acura TSX ever comes with a V6, then I would lean toward it.
I have owned them both, and swapped between them for a few weeks, the impreza from the drivers seat is larger. The back seats are another story.JunkPunch said:The Impreza is not larger on the inside than the Protege. Look at the specs - the Protege has more front and rear leg room, front and rear shoulder room, and more cargo space.
Sorry, back to the thread topic...
Stats don't always tell the story. The protege did have more front leg room, but only becuase the seat wetn back further. Either way, for someone to need the seat that far back in a protege, they would be 6'3" and the lesser head room would be a PITA. Also the Impreza seats can be lowered for better access to the pedals and dash clearence. I never noticed a difference in shoulder room from one car to another.
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COnsider MPGZoom Zoom Zoom said:Both vehicles are pretty good in their own way. But I would lean more towards the Mazda 6 even though I haven't test driven both vehicles. When it comes to exterior styling, the Mazda 6 has the edge, but to interior styling, the Acura TSX gets my vote. But the main reason why I would choose the Mazda 6 over the TSX is the engine. For me, I can't justify buying a four cylinder entry level luxury sport sedan that requires premium fuel, while every other compeitior in this market has a V6. Besides the Mazda 6 requires regular fuel which will save money at the pump and the car is about $2500 less than the TSX (in Canada). But if the Acura TSX ever comes with a V6, then I would lean toward it.
Zoom Zoom Zoom
Member
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- Either a Mazda 3 or Mazda 6
Fuel Economy is fairly close IMO, but it really depends on how you drive the vehicle that will affect you fuel economy and maintain it for optimum performance.1sty said:COnsider MPG
Base on the number for both vehicle (automatic) in Canadian numbers:
Fuel Consumption (L/100km)
Acura TSX:
City/Highway: 10.2/7.4
Mazda 6:
City/Highway: 12.3/8.1
BlueMonsta
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thanks... but its soooooo longDa 6 said:no....please read up on this link
http://mazda6tech.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=14
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