"A Brief History of America"

[chuyler1]

A semi-automatic uzi has one purpose:
to kill people

a M1A1 tank has the same purpose.


Sure you can go buy a 500hp Viper and break the law by speeding, but you cannot go buy an M1A1 tank, drive it around, and shoot animals in the forest with it....

Besides, Murder is in a much different category than speeding. Everyone knows that.

I have nothing against rifles and shotguns, I just see no reason why anyone has to own a semi-automatic weapon or a hand gun that can be easily concealed.

 

[StarvingRussian]

Speeding can murder.

 

[chuyler1]

yes, but the purpose of an automobile is not to kill.

 

[StarvingRussian]

Thats not its purpose, but it has been used for that. Remember that dentist who ran over her dentist husband because he was banging his dentist secretary.....or something.

 

[chuyler1]

so what, do you suppose, are the other uses of guns?

a paperweight?

 

[StarvingRussian]

To use as a back scratcher.

 

[ZoomZoomH]

Also, you, as a person have no reason to go and buy a 500hp Viper that will very easly brake the law, but you, as an American have the right to go out and spend your money to buy such a vehcile. Guns should be looked at the same way.

US already has one of the worst driver training program in the world (everywhere else in the civilized world, EVERYONE, including adults, have to go through a full driver's ed to get a license), is there even ANY required gun training program in order to be licensed to own a gun????? and what about the ease to acquire an illegal firearm, can you imagine an UNLICENSED person purchasing a Viper and rip it down the road???

yes guns don't kill people, it's IGNORANT ASS FOOLS with guns that kill people

 

[chuyler1]

yes, and its those same "IGNORANT ASS FOOLS" that vote against every gun law comes up.

 

[laracroft]

I agree with alot on this thread. I think there should some sort of formal training before we go around passing out guns to stupid people. I sure as hell dont want 'Jethro' down the block to own a semi-automatic .38 calibre or worse....45. It's bad enough some of these "hunters" walk around with a Browning or Winchester and have no clue other than "Kentucky windage" or just point and click. I have to agree with the statement: Guns don't kill people...STUPID people with guns kill people.

(guns) (freak)

 

[nmaino]

See, we are on to something here. Guns and gun laws are very simple to me:

You must complete a training course with recertification tests every year. Owning a gun would be like owning a motorcycle in England. Guns/firearms would be divided up into groups, each with its own test and each built withon a tier system. You must complete Test A to move onto Test B, and so forth. But, once you have completed all of the required tests, you would have the right to go out and spend ten grand on an Uzi or what have you. That is your right and you have shown that you have the ability and sense to own such a weapon.

And cars are FAR more dangerous then ANY loaded firearm. More people in the United States die each year from vehicles then from guns.

One more thing. Many guns have historical and family histoical value attached to them, just like cars and countless other objects. So yes, there are many other uses for guns other then to "just kill people".

 

[ZoomZoomH]

it's all nice to have these training regulations, but how do you prevent illegal firearm sales at local gun swap meets into untrained/dangerous hands??????

 

[ZoomZoomH]

oh and I think they should do what Chris Rock said, sell the bullets at $5000 EACH

 

[nmaino]

How do you prevent people without a DL from buying a car from a shaddy car salesman? You cannot regulate everything (it is not the Federal Governments job to do so) you have to let people regulate themselves.

You think Chris Rock is an authority on gun controle? If you want to charge $5,000 per bullet, why not sell gas for $10 a gallon. Will this outragous price stop a lot of vehicular deaths? Most liklely no, so what is the point?

 

[ZoomZoomH]

How do you prevent people without a DL from buying a car from a shaddy car salesman? You cannot regulate everything (it is not the Federal Governments job to do so) you have to let people regulate themselves.

but how many people illegally buy cars for the purpose of killing people? (except when organized crime want to 'off' someone and leave no evidence )

guns are also a lot cheaper to buy and MUCH EASIER to conceal for a 'surprise visit'

You think Chris Rock is an authority on gun controle? If you want to charge $5,000 per bullet, why not sell gas for $10 a gallon. Will this outragous price stop a lot of vehicular deaths? Most liklely no, so what is the point?

you actually took my quote from CHRIS ROCK as a serious comment???

 

[nmaino]

Well, you put it up there. I think that there should be no joking about guns.

If a person is going to kill a person, they will do it by any means possible. It does not matter if the gun (or other weapon, be it a car or a butter knife) was obtained legally or not. If you were to organize gun laws like I have stated, you will keep more guns out of the hands of individuals who should not have a gun. Just like by having a DL you keep people who should not be able to drive from buying a car. That is unless you life in California like myself, where anyone (even if you are illegal now) can get a DL.

 

[laracroft]

guns are also a lot cheaper to buy and MUCH EASIER to conceal for a 'surprise visit'

"Say hello to my widdle fwend..."
Scarface
(gun)

 

[GI-]

I'm sorry but I don't see why anyone in any country, excluding military in a time of war, should be allowed to purchase and walk around in public with a semi-automatic uzi.

Maybe I'm from the wrong part of the country but I just don't see how that is someone's right.

It is called the Second Amendment, and if you don't believe in it than you've got some issues. How about taking away some of our other rights given to us by our forefathers:

Freedom of religion
Freedom of speech
Freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures
Freedom to vote
etc...

Just because you don't see the need for certain Americans to own automatic or semi-automatic weapons, does not mean these people shouldn't be allowed to own them.

 

[laracroft]

Sorry, I think there need to be laws about what KIND of weapons are out there. Take the shoot out in Cali a few years ago between some robbers and LA police officers. This is EXACTLY what I want to happen in MY neighborhood or my bank. The right to bear arms doesnt mean my neighbor can walk around with a frekin oozie. There needs to be limits...PERIOD.

 

[chuyler1]

It is called the Second Amendment, and if you don't believe in it than you've got some issues. How about taking away some of our other rights given to us by our forefathers:

Freedom of religion
Freedom of speech
Freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures
Freedom to vote
etc...

Just because you don't see the need for certain Americans to own automatic or semi-automatic weapons, does not mean these people shouldn't be allowed to own them.

So I suppose people should be allowed to own nuclear weapons and test them on the deer they find in the back yard.

This ain't the wild west any more. A civilized culture should have civilized laws to govern civilized people. The freedom to bear arms, any kind of arms, is no longer civilized IMO. I see no reason to take away people's shotguns and rifles. I do however see every reason to take away uzi's, machine guns, and hand guns that can easily be concealed in one's clothing.

 

[GI-]

So I suppose people should be allowed to own nuclear weapons and test them on the deer they find in the back yard.

This ain't the wild west any more. A civilized culture should have civilized laws to govern civilized people. The freedom to bear arms, any kind of arms, is no longer civilized IMO. I see no reason to take away people's shotguns and rifles. I do however see every reason to take away uzi's, machine guns, and hand guns that can easily be concealed in one's clothing.

"is no longer civilized IMO" is exactly right. It is your 'opinion'. What makes you think that your opinion is right?

You do know what they say about opinions...don't you?