3k oil changes HURT engines not HELP!

[Hughes412]

Well I ran lube shops for yrs and I can tell you from all of the conferances that it is NOT safe to go 20k miles with out changing oil. Be smart about it. The reason you put a filter on the car is to clean out all of the s*** in the oil to get it as close to new as you can. The older the oil the more the oil breaks down. Any oil that tells you to go more than 6k miles between changes is bad company. I bet they wont warrenty your motor when it blows and you tell mazda you haven't changed it in 20k miles. But you go a head and do it. I want to see the out come of this. lol

 

[ozmojo1]

anyone know what the recommended mileage for changing the engine oil was in say oh.......the 1960s? I am just curious.

 

[lsdeater]

Dude, you are an idiot. If I put an article on the internet saying that running a 5% mix of water in your gas will give you 20% better gas mileage you would do it. If you want to go 20k on your oil go for it. I garuntee if you try that you will not have any oil left, And more than likely have no motor left. I could give you so many examples of idiots like you killing their motors that come in crying when it isn't warrantied. Go tell that to anyone that owns a 1.8T Vw to not change their oil just once. The motor will not survive. Even the 2.3l Mazda motors are very touchy about this.

are people so ignorant? did you read the article in its ENTIRETY?

Lets kill the messenger. Way to not even be open to reading and learning new things. You are uber cool.

 

[lsdeater]

Dude, you are an idiot. If I put an article on the internet saying that running a 5% mix of water in your gas will give you 20% better gas mileage you would do it. If you want to go 20k on your oil go for it. I garuntee if you try that you will not have any oil left, And more than likely have no motor left. I could give you so many examples of idiots like you killing their motors that come in crying when it isn't warrantied. Go tell that to anyone that owns a 1.8T Vw to not change their oil just once. The motor will not survive. Even the 2.3l Mazda motors are very touchy about this.

do you know what the people at blackstone do? they completely analyze the oil to ensure it is still doing its job.

but wait! i guess since this goes against your knowledge, it CANT be right.

(thumb)

 

[03.5MSP]

Last time I changed my oil, it was about 1000miles, in between the changes. I dont try to change my oil every 1k, but what does happen is I dont drive my msp that much. It takes me about 5-6 months to put on 3k. And last year i put on about 5k on the msp. So according to the whole, 10+K oil change I should change my oil every 2 1/2 years. Hmm, every 2-3 years, that sound good, I might try that. (uhm)

 

[lsdeater]

when you don't drive your car on a daily basis such as yourself, i'd rather go with dates than miles. perhaps once every 6-8 months.

 

[viVid]

A friend of mine had an 89 Honda Prelude, and he only changed the oil annually (if he remembered). He did keep it topped off, thank gawd. He sold the car with over 250k miles on it (still running great).

My Volvo V70 T5 (Turbo) has a 7500 mile oil change interval and I only change the oil in my P5 twice a year (spring/fall).

I don't think you need to change oil obsessively if the car is of decent quality to begin with, the fluids are kept topped off and it is not abused.

My two cents.

 

[03.5MSP]

when you don't drive your car on a daily basis such as yourself, i'd rather go with dates than miles. perhaps once every 6-8 months.

I think that if oil sits in your car for and extended period or time(2-3years), it will loose its ability to lubricate, the engine as needed. Thats why I dont go by the mileage, but by dates just like you said. I do mine about every 3 months.

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

I read the article, and think it is complete b.s. I could make a website saying exactly the same thing, or different if I wanted. The fact that this guy doesn't even have a garage to do his own oil change, yet writes articles like he is an expert on the subject makes it even harder to believe.
I have seen it too many times, even people running synthetic the life of the car. We get at least 2 a month, some only need an oil pump, most need a motor because they waste cam bearings. Every single one of them has missed one or two oil changes. Thats 10k miles, not even 20k miles. So yes based on my experience it is b.s.

I am killing the messenger because you said you are going to go 20k miles before you change your oil because you read this idiots website.

But again you can do what you want. Maybe if I am lucky you will come to my shop when you need the motor. Customer pay motor jobs pay pretty good.

 

[vindication]

20k huh? yeah you can do that if you get that crazy expensive oil that trucks use that last 100k miles. Even the Amsoil should be changed at max 15-17k, I'd change it every 10k with amsoil.
I change my oil and filter every 6k miles and I use castrol syntec

 

[lsdeater]

actually i was talking to ryan at blackstone who did the testing each time those guys sent them a kit. he even was quite amazed at the results of the mobil1. now they just need to do a amsoil test

 

[lsdeater]

dont get me wrong everyone, changing the oil FILTER every 10k miles is still necessary...

 

[vindication]

there is an amsoil test. it out lasted the mobil1 but not by too much. It was doing better at 17k miles than the Mobil1 was at like 1-2k miles less.

 

[ForceFed]

20k huh? yeah you can do that if you get that crazy expensive oil that ...trucks use that last 100k miles. Even the Amsoil should be changed at max 15-17k, I'd change it every 10k with amsoil.
I change my oil and filter every 6k miles and I use castrol syntec

Well those trucks you describe are deisels for one and they use about 20 quarts of oil I do beleive....Thats a nice supply of oil....Theirs is about design..nopt neccesarily about the type of oil they are running 100K on.

 

[vindication]

yes it is about the oil. I forget the name of the lubricant in the oil and it loses its lubrication and other properties way less in this oil than the oils we use.
I tried doing a quick search but I am having brain farts and cant remember the name but maybe someone with better memory will chime in

 

[lsdeater]

brain farts (rlaugh)

 

[santisurf]

brain farts (rlaugh)

X2 (hah) (poke) (rlaugh) (rlaugh)

Mayb we should lubricate our heads and we could think better (boom07) (hah) (rlaugh)(rlaugh)(rlaugh)(rlaugh)(rlaugh)(rlaugh)(rlaugh)

 

[GrandBelialKey]

well, about a week 1/2 half ago I was talking to the owner of a mazda dealership and he told me that if I change the oil every 2k miles - that he'd give me top dollar if I ever wanted to trade the car in... (he just bought one back for $16k. yes, you heard right, 16k for a msp with 49k miles)

now, how many msps came with full synthetic oil ? that's what i thought...

if you using regular oil, 2k - 3k is a good interval at which to change the oil. to.... hopefully keep the car running better longer.

just my opinion. (butt) whatever

 

[jeffmsp]

the first problem is the tester is using set variables to do his test. I dont think they are putting the motor through half the abuse a normal MSP driver would. My motor see's 7K RPM several times a day under full load, how often does the test motor see these figures, or any figures under full load at high rpm? A motors oil must be changed according to the action it has seen. Run your motor at 10/10ths at the track all day and try to go 20K without a oil change.. for me, i check the oil often and as soon as I see it is black and smelling bad its outta there regardless of milage or age. Almost have 100K on the stock motor with no mechanical problem making an estimated 50-80WHP more than stock daily(depending on how much boost I run).

 

[SilverBulletES]

(he just bought one back for $16k. yes, you heard right, 16k for a msp with 49k miles)

Now I'm calling BS on that too. Or else that dealer's a complete idiot. (hah) I'm guessing just a liar.