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Nah, not my thing - I know people that do that type of stuff for a living though. I have friends that do image editing, video mixing, audio mixing - all sorts of digital manipulation.
Me, I mostly play with video encoding. Just simple stuff like mpeg(DVD-mpeg2, mpeg2-ts, mpeg2-ps, avi, divx, asf, etc.) encoding, ripping, some light mixing - just stuff with Vegas or Premier. I'm mostly a digital packrat, my ftp is roughly 400GB, I've got a total of 742GB. That is spread between a 266mhz Imac running YDL3.0 and a PC. Also a huge fan of emulation (console, personal computer, arcade, stand alone electronic boards).
But lately, I've been playing with my car. Learning the principles and technology involved under the hood and behind the dash. It's alot of fun. Still miss my old computer geek stuff too though, wish there were more hours in the day.
Me, I mostly play with video encoding. Just simple stuff like mpeg(DVD-mpeg2, mpeg2-ts, mpeg2-ps, avi, divx, asf, etc.) encoding, ripping, some light mixing - just stuff with Vegas or Premier. I'm mostly a digital packrat, my ftp is roughly 400GB, I've got a total of 742GB. That is spread between a 266mhz Imac running YDL3.0 and a PC. Also a huge fan of emulation (console, personal computer, arcade, stand alone electronic boards).
But lately, I've been playing with my car. Learning the principles and technology involved under the hood and behind the dash. It's alot of fun. Still miss my old computer geek stuff too though, wish there were more hours in the day.
How did we learn? Short answer - we taught ourselves. Some stuff was learned in courses and school, mostly we taught ourselves and each other. I can't answer for my friends, some have been doing it longer than I have, some haven't. The long answer follows from my own account.
We've all been doing this stuff since we were kids/teens. Me, I was a poor kid (3 brothers, 4 sisters - my dad never made more than $45,000 a year before overtime) who couldn't afford to buy alot of games or toys. Library books were my world. I was a master at trading with friends though. I just always had an interest in electronics, video games, and computers. In High School my best friend Jay's parents both worked for AT&T labs, and they had an incredible amount of computers in the house. If anyone remembers the BBS days - and you lived in NJ - you probably heard of "The Violent Playground BBS"(multi node Renegade BBS - heavily modded) run by "ffejtable". Ffejtable was my best friends older step brother Jeff. We used to play Basketball until the sun went down in his driveway while we downloaded stuff over a 14.4 connection ( on his Zoom 14.4 attached to his 486dx2/66 16MB ram 540MB HD Diamond VGA card- kick ass machine at the time); when the sun went down, we'd play games on his computer, and on his SNES(huge UN Squadron fan). One day I was at a guys house I knew from Church, using his computer fixing stuff for him on his new computer. He gave me his old machine - which became my first machine - IBM model ps2 55sx. (legendary machine if you know the grassroots of Linus Torvalds Linux) 386sx 16mhz 4MB ram 30MB HD and a 2400 Baud External Hayes Modem. With a 30 MB harddrive, I could load Dos 5.0 (5 megs - I later learned to strip it down to roughly 1 meg - by removing almost all the tools) and have just enough room left for windows 3.1 ( 25 megs ). I tried to bum a HD from my best friend Jay, but he insisted I learn DOS. So I did. Ended up copying Qmodem Pro from him, and rode my bike home with a floppy disk. He set me up with an account on his brothers BBS. I started downloading, using fidonet, and generally learned how to use a computer. I downloaded the Jolly Roger's Cookbook, and all sorts of "zines". Made my first Red Box. Stole a linemans handset from a hardware store. My friend Mat was a "Carder", he taught me how to clone cell phones. My mom worked at a small pager/cellular service - and I struck a deal with her boss, he provided me with a Grey Motorola Flip Phone and a pager, and I provided him with all the internal Motorola programming schematics I could get my hands on. A year later, my sister asked me to fix her computer (Packard Bell 486sx25 4MB, Media Vision 16, 2x CD, 170MB HD), and I never gave it back to her. I started playing with modtracking software. Ripped my first WAV file from a CD on that machine. Set up a BBS with Iniquity and stole a USR 28.8 external from Vocational School. At that point all my friends were on 33.6 and Pentium 60/90/120's. I was always the kid with the slow connection on the slow pc. But I learned that when I could provide people with the files (H/P/V/A/C - if you know what that means, you might have been in the scene) they were looking for, they didn't care what my speed was - as long as I could deliver.
That's pretty much the beginning of my story on how I became a geek, or at least how I learned computers. I remember all of it, I'm still just as flexible in dos now as I was then. I randomly will remember part numbers, directory structures, and work arounds/cracks. Now I'm older - I mostly just download movies/software/music for friends and for myself. I'm a huge fan of bittorrent, still use IRC. But for the most part, the exitement of it is gone. Any moron can use a computer now. The BBS scene is dead. IRC is the only thing left that is a slight reminder of what it was to be online. Everything is so commercialized now. But we all knew it was going to happen way back then. It was designed that way; no, it wasn't designed that way, it was shaped that way by the users. We bought the software, called for the extra features, and industry complied by hiring those who compiled.
Like I was saying, the initial exitement is all but gone. Now it's just a normal thing to me. I usually see movies a few days before they come out watching them from my couch thanks to the s-video out on my video card. My friends will occasionally ask me for stuff, 9 times of 10 I don't even need to download it - I already have it.
I'm a digital packrat. It's what I do.
We've all been doing this stuff since we were kids/teens. Me, I was a poor kid (3 brothers, 4 sisters - my dad never made more than $45,000 a year before overtime) who couldn't afford to buy alot of games or toys. Library books were my world. I was a master at trading with friends though. I just always had an interest in electronics, video games, and computers. In High School my best friend Jay's parents both worked for AT&T labs, and they had an incredible amount of computers in the house. If anyone remembers the BBS days - and you lived in NJ - you probably heard of "The Violent Playground BBS"(multi node Renegade BBS - heavily modded) run by "ffejtable". Ffejtable was my best friends older step brother Jeff. We used to play Basketball until the sun went down in his driveway while we downloaded stuff over a 14.4 connection ( on his Zoom 14.4 attached to his 486dx2/66 16MB ram 540MB HD Diamond VGA card- kick ass machine at the time); when the sun went down, we'd play games on his computer, and on his SNES(huge UN Squadron fan). One day I was at a guys house I knew from Church, using his computer fixing stuff for him on his new computer. He gave me his old machine - which became my first machine - IBM model ps2 55sx. (legendary machine if you know the grassroots of Linus Torvalds Linux) 386sx 16mhz 4MB ram 30MB HD and a 2400 Baud External Hayes Modem. With a 30 MB harddrive, I could load Dos 5.0 (5 megs - I later learned to strip it down to roughly 1 meg - by removing almost all the tools) and have just enough room left for windows 3.1 ( 25 megs ). I tried to bum a HD from my best friend Jay, but he insisted I learn DOS. So I did. Ended up copying Qmodem Pro from him, and rode my bike home with a floppy disk. He set me up with an account on his brothers BBS. I started downloading, using fidonet, and generally learned how to use a computer. I downloaded the Jolly Roger's Cookbook, and all sorts of "zines". Made my first Red Box. Stole a linemans handset from a hardware store. My friend Mat was a "Carder", he taught me how to clone cell phones. My mom worked at a small pager/cellular service - and I struck a deal with her boss, he provided me with a Grey Motorola Flip Phone and a pager, and I provided him with all the internal Motorola programming schematics I could get my hands on. A year later, my sister asked me to fix her computer (Packard Bell 486sx25 4MB, Media Vision 16, 2x CD, 170MB HD), and I never gave it back to her. I started playing with modtracking software. Ripped my first WAV file from a CD on that machine. Set up a BBS with Iniquity and stole a USR 28.8 external from Vocational School. At that point all my friends were on 33.6 and Pentium 60/90/120's. I was always the kid with the slow connection on the slow pc. But I learned that when I could provide people with the files (H/P/V/A/C - if you know what that means, you might have been in the scene) they were looking for, they didn't care what my speed was - as long as I could deliver.
That's pretty much the beginning of my story on how I became a geek, or at least how I learned computers. I remember all of it, I'm still just as flexible in dos now as I was then. I randomly will remember part numbers, directory structures, and work arounds/cracks. Now I'm older - I mostly just download movies/software/music for friends and for myself. I'm a huge fan of bittorrent, still use IRC. But for the most part, the exitement of it is gone. Any moron can use a computer now. The BBS scene is dead. IRC is the only thing left that is a slight reminder of what it was to be online. Everything is so commercialized now. But we all knew it was going to happen way back then. It was designed that way; no, it wasn't designed that way, it was shaped that way by the users. We bought the software, called for the extra features, and industry complied by hiring those who compiled.
Like I was saying, the initial exitement is all but gone. Now it's just a normal thing to me. I usually see movies a few days before they come out watching them from my couch thanks to the s-video out on my video card. My friends will occasionally ask me for stuff, 9 times of 10 I don't even need to download it - I already have it.
I'm a digital packrat. It's what I do.
GerardPRO5
Member
ha!
I'm in the same boat as Micah...my friends were couriers back in the day...we knew the real meaning of 0-day warez...we thought having a hard drive larger than 100 MB was unbelievable.
we were running MUD's off of VAX/VMS machines when we were supposed to be doing research...
back then, 'online' meant logging on to a BBS or ciphering through gopher sessions to find stuff...getting good speed meant you found a BBS with a decent UL/DL ratio...
...I remember when yahoo used to be: http://www.stanford.edu/akebono/yahoo.html
nowadays, it's too easy for someone to act like they know what they're doing because there are webpages out there that explicitly explain how to do things...
the Jolly Rogers' Cookbook...Guide to Phreaking...the Terrorists' Handbook...you can find these online too easily - back in my day, we had to know someone who knew someone who was hosting the file on their BBS...
I'm in the same boat as Micah...my friends were couriers back in the day...we knew the real meaning of 0-day warez...we thought having a hard drive larger than 100 MB was unbelievable.
we were running MUD's off of VAX/VMS machines when we were supposed to be doing research...
back then, 'online' meant logging on to a BBS or ciphering through gopher sessions to find stuff...getting good speed meant you found a BBS with a decent UL/DL ratio...
...I remember when yahoo used to be: http://www.stanford.edu/akebono/yahoo.html
nowadays, it's too easy for someone to act like they know what they're doing because there are webpages out there that explicitly explain how to do things...
the Jolly Rogers' Cookbook...Guide to Phreaking...the Terrorists' Handbook...you can find these online too easily - back in my day, we had to know someone who knew someone who was hosting the file on their BBS...
Yep, any moron with a webbrowser now.
I think that is why I still use IRC. Alot of people just refuse to be bothered learning the commandset. Even the most widespread IRC client mIRC, still is nothing without scripts and aliases.
here, this ought to jog your memory.
zmodem....xmodem....ymodem.....kermit.....leech(zmodem cutting off the last error correction bit)... fossil drivers... qemmem... qemmanifest (multiple command prompts).... renegade... iniquity... majorbbs( and the 16 port Serial card for multinode bbs's) .... NRLG (or virii creation for dummies).... ScreamTracker3.... ImpulseTracker... Corridor7.... The Incredible Machine... Martian Memorandum... Rise of the Triad... Wolf3d... Ms-Dos 5.0(small & stable - best ever dos in my opinion) ... Ms-Dos 6.0( oops, Doublespace doesn't work right) ... Ms-Dos 6.1 ( oops, we fixed it but stole the code from "Stacker", complete with comments in code)... Ms-Dos 6.2 ( oops, we coded it ourselves, but this time you cannot free space and disable Doublespace - name changed to "DriveSpace")... Ms-Dos 6.22 ( finally worked properly ) doom(&ultimate doom add on)... doom2(&final doom add on)... heretic... hexen... Commander Keen ... Duke Nukem( not 3d, the side scroller) Test Drive 3... thedraw(ansi drawing program)... ansi bombs (keyboard remapping through ansi)... banannacom... ... graffit walls on bbs's... fidonet on bbs's... "page the sysop".... CallerID callback bbs registrations... BBS Lists... bbs door games(Legend of the Red Dragon, cyberpunk, sluts, lemonade, Lisa the chatbot, etc.) ... Raptor-Call of the shadows.... Mortal Kombat (yes you could play it on a 486)... Zork series( "want some rye... course ya do")... Police Quest... Maniac Mansion... Day of the Tentacle... Descent ( First true 3d enviornment FPS that forced you to deal with true 3d movement and attack/defense/navigation)... Thunderbyte Anti-Virus... etc.
But my all time favorite thing ever:
The Quake Shareware CD. Sold everywhere for 5 Dollars, contained everything from Doom up to Quake. iD said it was uncrackable. The crack was released the same day the CD was. I still have the CD, and a floppy with the crack in my CD case in my car.
And I remember you could register the first win95 with any key whose sum was divisable by a certain number, I think it was 5 or 7.
I think that is why I still use IRC. Alot of people just refuse to be bothered learning the commandset. Even the most widespread IRC client mIRC, still is nothing without scripts and aliases.
here, this ought to jog your memory.
zmodem....xmodem....ymodem.....kermit.....leech(zmodem cutting off the last error correction bit)... fossil drivers... qemmem... qemmanifest (multiple command prompts).... renegade... iniquity... majorbbs( and the 16 port Serial card for multinode bbs's) .... NRLG (or virii creation for dummies).... ScreamTracker3.... ImpulseTracker... Corridor7.... The Incredible Machine... Martian Memorandum... Rise of the Triad... Wolf3d... Ms-Dos 5.0(small & stable - best ever dos in my opinion) ... Ms-Dos 6.0( oops, Doublespace doesn't work right) ... Ms-Dos 6.1 ( oops, we fixed it but stole the code from "Stacker", complete with comments in code)... Ms-Dos 6.2 ( oops, we coded it ourselves, but this time you cannot free space and disable Doublespace - name changed to "DriveSpace")... Ms-Dos 6.22 ( finally worked properly ) doom(&ultimate doom add on)... doom2(&final doom add on)... heretic... hexen... Commander Keen ... Duke Nukem( not 3d, the side scroller) Test Drive 3... thedraw(ansi drawing program)... ansi bombs (keyboard remapping through ansi)... banannacom... ... graffit walls on bbs's... fidonet on bbs's... "page the sysop".... CallerID callback bbs registrations... BBS Lists... bbs door games(Legend of the Red Dragon, cyberpunk, sluts, lemonade, Lisa the chatbot, etc.) ... Raptor-Call of the shadows.... Mortal Kombat (yes you could play it on a 486)... Zork series( "want some rye... course ya do")... Police Quest... Maniac Mansion... Day of the Tentacle... Descent ( First true 3d enviornment FPS that forced you to deal with true 3d movement and attack/defense/navigation)... Thunderbyte Anti-Virus... etc.
But my all time favorite thing ever:
The Quake Shareware CD. Sold everywhere for 5 Dollars, contained everything from Doom up to Quake. iD said it was uncrackable. The crack was released the same day the CD was. I still have the CD, and a floppy with the crack in my CD case in my car.
And I remember you could register the first win95 with any key whose sum was divisable by a certain number, I think it was 5 or 7.
Yep, any moron with a webbrowser now.
I think that is why I still use IRC. Alot of people just refuse to be bothered learning the commandset. Even the most widespread IRC client mIRC, still is nothing without scripts and aliases.
here, this ought to jog your memory.
zmodem....xmodem....ymodem.....kermit.....leech(zmodem cutting off the last error correction bit)... fossil drivers... qemmem... qemmanifest (multiple command prompts).... renegade... iniquity... majorbbs( and the 16 port Serial card for multinode bbs's) .... NRLG (or virii creation for dummies).... ScreamTracker3.... ImpulseTracker... Corridor7.... The Incredible Machine... Martian Memorandum... Rise of the Triad... Wolf3d... Ms-Dos 5.0(small & stable - best ever dos in my opinion) ... Ms-Dos 6.0( oops, Doublespace doesn't work right) ... Ms-Dos 6.1 ( oops, we fixed it but stole the code from "Stacker", complete with comments in code)... Ms-Dos 6.2 ( oops, we coded it ourselves, but this time you cannot free space and disable Doublespace - name changed to "DriveSpace")... Ms-Dos 6.22 ( finally worked properly ) doom(&ultimate doom add on)... doom2(&final doom add on)... heretic... hexen... Commander Keen ... Duke Nukem( not 3d, the side scroller) Test Drive 3... thedraw(ansi drawing program)... ansi bombs (keyboard remapping through ansi)... banannacom... ... graffit walls on bbs's... fidonet on bbs's... "page the sysop".... CallerID callback bbs registrations... BBS Lists... bbs door games(Legend of the Red Dragon, cyberpunk, sluts, lemonade, Lisa the chatbot, etc.) ... Raptor-Call of the shadows.... Mortal Kombat (yes you could play it on a 486)... Zork series( "want some rye... course ya do")... Police Quest... Maniac Mansion... Day of the Tentacle... Descent ( First true 3d enviornment FPS that forced you to deal with true 3d movement and attack/defense/navigation)... Thunderbyte Anti-Virus... etc.
But my all time favorite thing ever:
The Quake Shareware CD. Sold everywhere for 5 Dollars, contained everything from Doom up to Quake. iD said it was uncrackable. The crack was released the same day the CD was. I still have the CD, and a floppy with the crack in my CD case in my car.
And I remember you could register the first win95 with any key whose sum was divisable by a certain number, I think it was 5 or 7.
Now I'm gonna go back to my car. I'm at the shop with Perf using his machine in the back. Time to mount my intercooler for good.
I think that is why I still use IRC. Alot of people just refuse to be bothered learning the commandset. Even the most widespread IRC client mIRC, still is nothing without scripts and aliases.
here, this ought to jog your memory.
zmodem....xmodem....ymodem.....kermit.....leech(zmodem cutting off the last error correction bit)... fossil drivers... qemmem... qemmanifest (multiple command prompts).... renegade... iniquity... majorbbs( and the 16 port Serial card for multinode bbs's) .... NRLG (or virii creation for dummies).... ScreamTracker3.... ImpulseTracker... Corridor7.... The Incredible Machine... Martian Memorandum... Rise of the Triad... Wolf3d... Ms-Dos 5.0(small & stable - best ever dos in my opinion) ... Ms-Dos 6.0( oops, Doublespace doesn't work right) ... Ms-Dos 6.1 ( oops, we fixed it but stole the code from "Stacker", complete with comments in code)... Ms-Dos 6.2 ( oops, we coded it ourselves, but this time you cannot free space and disable Doublespace - name changed to "DriveSpace")... Ms-Dos 6.22 ( finally worked properly ) doom(&ultimate doom add on)... doom2(&final doom add on)... heretic... hexen... Commander Keen ... Duke Nukem( not 3d, the side scroller) Test Drive 3... thedraw(ansi drawing program)... ansi bombs (keyboard remapping through ansi)... banannacom... ... graffit walls on bbs's... fidonet on bbs's... "page the sysop".... CallerID callback bbs registrations... BBS Lists... bbs door games(Legend of the Red Dragon, cyberpunk, sluts, lemonade, Lisa the chatbot, etc.) ... Raptor-Call of the shadows.... Mortal Kombat (yes you could play it on a 486)... Zork series( "want some rye... course ya do")... Police Quest... Maniac Mansion... Day of the Tentacle... Descent ( First true 3d enviornment FPS that forced you to deal with true 3d movement and attack/defense/navigation)... Thunderbyte Anti-Virus... etc.
But my all time favorite thing ever:
The Quake Shareware CD. Sold everywhere for 5 Dollars, contained everything from Doom up to Quake. iD said it was uncrackable. The crack was released the same day the CD was. I still have the CD, and a floppy with the crack in my CD case in my car.
And I remember you could register the first win95 with any key whose sum was divisable by a certain number, I think it was 5 or 7.
Now I'm gonna go back to my car. I'm at the shop with Perf using his machine in the back. Time to mount my intercooler for good.
GerardPRO5
Member
oh wow, that brought back memories...
QEMM...I remember finding this and installing it so I could run SimCity 2000 in DOS...then I remember QEMM wouldn't let me run Day of the Tentacle, so I had to create a multiboot with a menu - man, that was cool...on bootup, I had several options: QEMM, DOTT, DOS, Win3.11...
Raptor was too cool...I hated Descent, especially since I had the cheat that let you choose levels - level 30 sucked.
...I had a Thrustmaster steering wheel - I paid $150 for it...just so I could play Need for Speed.
I remember when 32 MB of memory was A LOT...I remember standing in line for a 16 MB stick of RAM...and paying $150 and thinking I cheated them out of RAM.
I remember trying to hack games so I can get to different levels...and using Binedit after reading some lame hack I read using gopher...GOPHER!
good times.
now...some lame punk chats on AIM in L33T and he thinks he's a hacker...fool probably doesn't even know what a black box is.
QEMM...I remember finding this and installing it so I could run SimCity 2000 in DOS...then I remember QEMM wouldn't let me run Day of the Tentacle, so I had to create a multiboot with a menu - man, that was cool...on bootup, I had several options: QEMM, DOTT, DOS, Win3.11...
Raptor was too cool...I hated Descent, especially since I had the cheat that let you choose levels - level 30 sucked.
...I had a Thrustmaster steering wheel - I paid $150 for it...just so I could play Need for Speed.
I remember when 32 MB of memory was A LOT...I remember standing in line for a 16 MB stick of RAM...and paying $150 and thinking I cheated them out of RAM.
I remember trying to hack games so I can get to different levels...and using Binedit after reading some lame hack I read using gopher...GOPHER!
good times.
now...some lame punk chats on AIM in L33T and he thinks he's a hacker...fool probably doesn't even know what a black box is.
GerardPRO5
Member
...but that's what happens when you get teeny-boppers chatting it up in chat rooms and ICQ/AIM/whatever...
hey Micah...can you hook me up with a free code with Livejournal?
I've tried other blogs, but Livejournal looks like it's the most robust...
hey Micah...can you hook me up with a free code with Livejournal?
I've tried other blogs, but Livejournal looks like it's the most robust...
GerardPRO5
Member
alright...off to work on my Sun Enterprise 250.
stupid Solaris won't start the POST...
stupid Solaris won't start the POST...
yeah, I'll get you a user code, send me an email "evilmicah@aol.com". It is the most robust, I actually was going to go nuts with it, but I never did, just found a simple style set I liked and left it alone. Hell, I never even changed the colors.
I guess I'm just a pretty plain 'form follows function' kind of guy.
I guess I'm just a pretty plain 'form follows function' kind of guy.
