2nd gear is ******!!
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You don't have to double-clutch to rev match downshifts. You can single clutch and rev match just fine. There are two ways to do that. Put in the clutch, shift to desired gear, blip the throttle to rev match, then let out the clutch. The other way (which is quicker), is to push in the clutch, blip the throttle (this can be done very quickly with enough practice), shift to desired gear as the rpms are falling, then let out the clutch. Both these methods when done right will achieve perfect rev matches with very little wear on the synchros.
Dim said:Yup. Double-clutch on downshifts.
You can, but the synchros have to do more work, so technically speaking they will sustain more wear.
On a brand new vehicle you may not notice any symptoms of wear for a long time; however, long-term this may not be good.
I think it's just about the extent to which you are willing to go in order to treat your car well! Like I said, some transmissions are very robust and will do the job reliably regardless of how you treat them. The Protege transmission is crap, so I want to make it last the longest.
Also, watch any circuit race where they show the guy actually driving, you'll see that he's double-clutching on every downshift.
Here you go! These videos are on Google video right now. They were once on Standardshift.com, which is where I learned about them:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=standardshift&num=10&so=0&start=0
I think some of them repeat in this Google search, but make sure to watch all of them because this is all you need to know. This guy drives fairly aggressively. You don't have to do that, just learn the idea. Hehe.
Double-clutching (heel-and-toe) at play (Pros Racing stock cars):
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/ba8f93f0-10cd-41ad-ac35-986e015972b1.htm
I always double clutch under heavy load situations -> going from 6th to 3rd, for passing, etc. From what I know, the cars on the circuit are required to double clutch as the race-spec transmissions lack the syncros. As someone else mentioned earlier, our cars technically don't require engaging the clutch twice thanks to the syncro. (depress the clutch once and rev-match)
I still use double clutching anyway in case I leave the IT field and join the pro racing scene. keke~ *^_^*
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whitey4311
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I think it was a good post since now I pay attention to mine and be sure its always fully in gear.
Thanks again for the post and the heads up clos561.
Thanks again for the post and the heads up clos561.
i posted when it was messed up...and i posted when i got it fixed....just keeping everyone informed on my s***...im not going to launch or do any hard shifts untill i upgrade my tranny mount that alot of people have upgraded on this forum...yea i tell the world that this is my first stick shift car and that i made a mistake...and you give a **** y?Dim said:
