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Didnt realize theres some nicely tuned Pro's floating about...Good work guys keep it up
250-300hp your way!
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MPNick said:
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what makes his car NOT street legal? I'm a CJ major, and his car is street legal, however, if Florida has emissions testing, he may not pass, but his car IS street legal.
here in Michigan, my car will be street legal 100% and i have haltech with 440cc injectors...
pdhaudio83 said:?????
what makes his car NOT street legal? I'm a CJ major, and his car is street legal, however, if Florida has emissions testing, he may not pass, but his car IS street legal.
here in Michigan, my car will be street legal 100% and i have haltech with 440cc injectors...
He is of course referring to emissions testing which some states do test. You know this, yet you continue to feign ignorance and troll.
It's ok though, most everyone knows you do it - so it would be more of a shock if you didn't show up.
By the way: http://www.dep.state.fl.us/air/rules/fac/62-242.pdf
Florida does indeed check emissions.
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a car being not street legal is not the same thing as not passing emissions or being rejected by emissions testers.
street legal is more specifically cars that
1) dont meet safety standards
2) use a non- DOT approved tire
3) use body parts that do not meet crash test standards (IE- cars made entirely of fiberglass)
street legal is more specifically cars that
1) dont meet safety standards
2) use a non- DOT approved tire
3) use body parts that do not meet crash test standards (IE- cars made entirely of fiberglass)
I'm not seeing where he said "street legal" - I do see where he said legal.
If he can't pass inspection due to failing emissions - can he legally drive the car on the roads without the cops pulling him over and harrassing him for it?
Will his car get impounded?
Will he be issued a ticket?
You're the aspiring CJ expert - you tell me!
If he can't pass inspection due to failing emissions - can he legally drive the car on the roads without the cops pulling him over and harrassing him for it?
Will his car get impounded?
Will he be issued a ticket?
You're the aspiring CJ expert - you tell me!
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daedalus said:
Yes it could be fun if you still have everyday drivability.
Im in orlando home of Titan Motorsports and their are alot of High HP supras. And High hp imports thanks to CFT, recently they had a 511 whp integra posted on racingflix. Cowboy Beebop is supra owner with ...I think it may be 1200-1300 hp. He made like some outrageoud hp at half throttle. So I was at Full Sail and this White Supra pulls up and drops a girl off. Not only can you smell the fumes of a high hp supra but the car was idling really high becasue of the cams. It was super lound as in everyone was complaining in the building because he was trying to get back into traffic. Not to mention seeing him go through heavy traffic (traffic jams) trying to slip his clutch on what must be a real agressive tranny. Im suprised he didnt stall the car. I just think thats too much when he would probally never spool his T88H turbo on a normal day on the high way since theirs too much traffic. He has to probally run on slick tires to get a fast time. So if he sees a enzo and wants to rac him he cant exactly change tires before the light turns green. Plus the fact that he maybe faster then a Enzo on the highway where their is a nice straight line. But since when were Supercars made to be drag raced? I see alot of muscle cars at the drag strip but I dotn really see alot of Enzos, Zondas and Lambos. Its like racign and ******* up a car that isnt even ment to play that sort of game.
If its a GT28RS or a good size turbo for our cars then yes...its fantastic. If someone plans to lower the compression to 7:1:1 and put 4 T88Hs on each cylinder then I would really question its daily drivability. If I was to build my dream MSP I would look to MAM to build and tune me a car that has very good daily driverbility and economode and max out that set up. Im thinking how the clutch would feel like in a 500 hp MSP in stop and go traffic...lol. I just bought a Emanage in hopes that it will give me better gas milage since gas is $2.50 a gallon here. That may not be bad but for a college student living of ramens it is. But as soon as I get out of college and get a job a build block and a good LSD will be my #1 priority for this car. Then after a nice FMIC and maybe a turbo I will call it a day and be happy with the results. But I know how addictive power can get and you would probally want more once you taste it.
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dude, me predicting what an officer in FLORIDA would do is past me.
he MAY or MAY NOT issue a ticket
the car will not be impounded unless there are extreme circumstances.
And yes, I guess i took it upon myself that nick meant street legal. i was wrong.
he MAY or MAY NOT issue a ticket
the car will not be impounded unless there are extreme circumstances.
And yes, I guess i took it upon myself that nick meant street legal. i was wrong.
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whats the big deal theres probably dozen of cars on this forum who arent "legal" ( catless pipes)....so you guys are nitpicking over what (uhm)
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yeah, i agree. im done.
pdhaudio83 said:
Legally, the officer can issue a ticket. As always an officer may utilize personal discretion in such matters and let someone off with a warning. That is pretty much the case in any state which has emissions testing. I had a z28 with some mods (Edelbrock Intake + Holley 650dbl pmpr + 3.73 + flowmaster w/out cats + headers + B&M shift kit + TH350 tranny = fastest thing between the repair shop and the gas pump) that resulted in not passing emissions - fortunately I have a friend who would pass me anyway... but I read up on the laws so that if it ever came up - I'd be prepared.
Oh, and Michigans laws fall under section 324 - and my lord are there alot of them. Stuff repealed and new subsections created all over the place. Goddamn, I thought NJ's Motor Vehicle laws were fun to run through.
If anyone is in Michigan - http://www.legislature.mi.gov/
FBI14 said:
He tried to nitpick on MPNick, I am bored at work and decided to have some fun.
Also - yes, alot of cars run without cats, and so long as you can find a way around inspection - you'll be ok. Some people have the means, and some don't. But I think it's a very strong point that the MPI Tuner will not stop a car from passing emissions, while other options invariably will do so.
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i guess its a good thing my home counties and 3 others got excempt from having federal emissions for a handful of years (thanks to chicago and gary, IN pollution coming over lake michigan)
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Micah said:
Still, there not "legal" but who cares
I dont get how a thread that could have provided some great material and info about our cars got started over legal issues of emission and other BS...this forum is beyond sucking anymore
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My p3nis is fastar...I mean my car.
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Take it easy on the street legal, emmisions, and all that s*** no-one cares about anyways till inspection time when they get '****** over'. This thread is about power damn-it.
Oh, and my 400hp car goes like this...simple bolt ons to speed....purchase old RX-7...spend heaps of money...melt tires.
. Take it easy on the street legal, emmisions, and all that s*** no-one cares about anyways till inspection time when they get '****** over'. This thread is about power damn-it.
Oh, and my 400hp car goes like this...simple bolt ons to speed....purchase old RX-7...spend heaps of money...melt tires.
Brian, i know not to push the stock turbo too high, 14~15psi was the limit i set myself + Nick also told me we shouldn't try to push over 230~240whp with it cuz it may die quickly. i guess we'll see after the engine work is done how much it makes @ what psi.
Do you guys know of anybody that dynoed with the stock turbo at high boost ? (12psi+) id like to know what to expect
Do you guys know of anybody that dynoed with the stock turbo at high boost ? (12psi+) id like to know what to expect
mazdaspeedpower said:
No this thread is about someone asking how to do something. So know if people are going to give info how about give all the facts.
No one is saying you cannot make power with a standalone and big injectors.
All I am pointing out is not one person on this forum is doing it with out problems. For some it is cold starts. For other it is running more then a few starting maps. All need to run much higher then stock idles. None will pass any of their state testing if the have them.
As for getting "****** over", get real. People can pass testing and still make the same or in the case on this forum more power doing things better. Why is it the you feel that it is getting ******. The performance world had to deal with this back in the 80s. The people that did their home work are still around. The people that looked at it as BS are not.
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If i needed to pass emissions and wanted the driveability of OEM, i would go with the MPI tuner. If i want the ECU to have nothing to do with my engine control or running bigger injectors, I'd go with a full standalone.
For many people the MPI is a good idea, for some who are building their cars, they may think elsewise. For me, I am going to see how the Haltech goes for me.
I hope it will get me where I want to be.
The MPI tuner is a good idea because people have a OEM and are adding fuel. The big downfall with standalone is getting a map to OEM quality.
For many people the MPI is a good idea, for some who are building their cars, they may think elsewise. For me, I am going to see how the Haltech goes for me.
I hope it will get me where I want to be.
The MPI tuner is a good idea because people have a OEM and are adding fuel. The big downfall with standalone is getting a map to OEM quality.
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Metal MP5 said:
I ran 107mph in the quarter on the stock turbo. With a 2900 weight. Using a simple hp calculator I made 277whp. I highly doubt it was really that high, I guess around 250-260whp.
i ran 101.5 last year @ ~9.5psi (0.65bar). i'm not sure about weight, but my subwoofer was in the trunk and i weigh over 250lbs ..... how does that hp calculator work ? it'd be nice to have if you dont mind sharing it
i'm not expecting anything above 230 or maybe 240 if i'm really lucky, but i guess we'll see. how much boost were you running to hi 107 ? i'm sure i read it in another thread but my memory left me a long time ago lol
i'm not expecting anything above 230 or maybe 240 if i'm really lucky, but i guess we'll see. how much boost were you running to hi 107 ? i'm sure i read it in another thread but my memory left me a long time ago lol
