2009 Dodge Challenger vs Speed 3

[Frisco speed3]

I worked at a porsche race shop from age 17-19 owned a 944 and borrowed my bosses' cars all the time. I left that shop with 5 points on my record and didn't get any of them in my 944. Young kids in fast cars are garunteed trouble in some shape or form. P.S. That was some of the most fun I've ever had!

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

Lmao, when the kid pulls up to the stop light and is challenged by some ricer to a race and he accepts and "controls" his car directly into a ditch or lightpole, he'll have people like you to thank for encouraging him to buy his "dream car" as his first car.

Listen, it seems to me like you are a little better of family wise than most of your peers so do yourself a favor and buy yourself a "nice" but not something that you will regret crashing too much cause the chances of you crashing your first car are pretty high. buy yourself and early model 3 or something. trust me, in four or five years you will be glad you did.

What? Come on, drive it into a ditch? Now you are insulting him.

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

I worked at a porsche race shop from age 17-19 owned a 944 and borrowed my bosses' cars all the time. I left that shop with 5 points on my record and didn't get any of them in my 944. Young kids in fast cars are garunteed trouble in some shape or form. P.S. That was some of the most fun I've ever had!

This guy knows... He had a blast!

 

[Bravnik]

Put it to you this way. I'm 42 and I would NEVER buy a Bike as I know I like to go fast at times and I would eventually kill myself on one.

Being mature is knowing your limits and accepting them. Being immature is knowing better and then still doing it.

Now if I was 18 again, I would probably get the STR8 because even though I knew I would race the s*** out of it, I would convince myself and my parents that I would not.

I had a friend in high school that built his 69 Camaro with his dad. It was a really nice car, mint condition, PNP'd and Blueprinted. Fast as hell.

To this day I wonder if his dad still regrets giving him the car. He had it about 6 months before he wrapped it around a tree doing 100+ MPH around a broad sweeping curve thus killing himself and his best friend in the process.

 

[Bravnik]

This guy knows... He had a blast!

You see, the issue with this is that you have to LIVE to grow older to tell these stories. I have quite a few of them to tell myself. However, the only reason I'm alive today to tell this is because I was LUCKY. Nothing more.

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

Everyone has a story like that. Granted the car helped but it wasnt the one pushing the peddle. I had freinds killed in a chevette for jumping rail road tracks. THat car had 85 hp. It isnt always the car but the driver. I am a 38 year old that always made the good smart decisions and am not just trying to catch up. Had I had the fast cars in my early twenties I would be over it by now. LOL... Who am I kidding.

Do what you can for yourself based on what you can afford, what you want and how the future looks. Be prepared for the worst while making every effort to make the worst be minimal. An SE model will not be out of control in my opinion, no worse than a NON Gt Mustang or something along those lines. IMO I would rather have a mazda3 gt or something anyway, nicer, last longer, better gas mileage and resale value than any Dodge you can purchase today in that price range.

 

[mckraut]

What? Come on, drive it into a ditch? Now you are insulting him.

Why do you think insurance for young male drivers is so high?

Everyone has a story like that. Granted the car helped but it wasnt the one pushing the peddle. I had freinds killed in a chevette for jumping rail road tracks. THat car had 85 hp. It isnt always the car but the driver.

You can drown in 18 inches of water, but it's a lot easier to do in 20 feet of it. I rest my case.

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

LOL... Ok So why do you have a speed? Your mature, never get on the car and are an excellent driver? Geesh man, let the kid have some fun! Oh, and you can drowned in a table spoon of water.

 

[mckraut]

LOL... Ok So why do you have a speed? Your mature, never get on the car and are an excellent driver? Geesh man, let the kid have some fun! Oh, and you can drowned in a table spoon of water.

Because I'm 27 years old, have made my mistakes on a SLOW car and know better now. If I had this car when I was 16 or 17, I'd be in a coma to this day most likely.

Not everyone does stupid things in a car, but why encourage them to get a car they can get themselves into trouble with faster?

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

A Whales Vagina, Agree to disagree. He was asking, a Challenger or a Speed3.

 

[mckraut]

A Whales Vagina, Agree to disagree. He was asking, a Challenger or a Speed3.

Agreed, agree to disagree. Neither car is a great choice for him.

 

[truredspeed3]

If this is your first car the Speed3 or the Challenger are HORRIBLE options. I am not trying to be a dick, but no first should be driving an MS3 or a Challenger. Learn how to drive first.

 

[Mr.Vegas]

Can the OP even drive a manual trans? What about parallel park?

I'm 19 and a few weeks from getting a Speed3. My first car was a total piece and I thank God that it was. First time drivers do stupid s*** (like trying to drift and hitting a curb) no matter who they are. I'm just glad that I had a good economical car to get me through high school and my first year of college. Now that I am working full time, have some money saved and aren't as immature as I was a few years ago I feel comfortable buying this car.

Bro, dont get a fast/expensive car for your first car. Get a Hyundai or a Scion or someting.

 

[MicaSp33d]

as of right now... since this is your first car, you don't know what kind of driver you are. Slow and conservative or "goddammit, you can't change lanes in front of me, i'll show you" type of a driver.

i hated my first car ... 86 mazda protege .. it was slow and ugly.
I used to have all my friends in the car and drive through dips at 50+ mph to see how high we can jump. That probably destroyed my suspension. Then i got ran into twice which the second time totaled it.

Second car was a 95 toyota avalon, parents gave it to me because i had no car. Ended up crashing into someones wall trying to take a 15mph turn going 45mph, i made the turn but coming out of the corner my tires gave up, they were bald, went sideways into a wall.

So i say just get a ok car to drive first, find out what kind of driver you are and your second or third car, get the car you want/deserve/payed for.

even though i wanted to pick my own car from the begining, i'm somewhat glad i didn't end up making my "young drivers" mistakes in a car i loved.

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

Hey,

I just visited the thread with the Dodge Challenger, and damn is it sexy. How would the Challenger compare with the Speed 3? In terms of say...acceleration, handling, price (SE trim), and also...the insurance prices for a 2-door (considering it as a person's first car).

This is his first car, does not mean he doesnt drive a car everyday!

 

[mckraut]

as of right now... since this is your first car, you don't know what kind of driver you are. Slow and conservative or "goddammit, you can't change lanes in front of me, i'll show you" type of a driver.

i hated my first car ... 86 mazda protege .. it was slow and ugly.
I used to have all my friends in the car and drive through dips at 50+ mph to see how high we can jump. That probably destroyed my suspension. Then i got ran into twice which the second time totaled it.

Second car was a 95 toyota avalon, parents gave it to me because i had no car. Ended up crashing into someones wall trying to take a 15mph turn 45mph, i made the turn but coming out of the corner my tires gave up, they were bald, went sideways into a wall.

So i say just get a ok car to drive first, find out what kind of driver you are and your second or third car, get the car you want/deserve/payed for.

+1, excellent advice.

 

[mckraut]

OP, how old are you/what do you drive currently and who owns it?

 

[ZooMIN3]

i second and third and forth what everyone says about getting a cheaper slower turtle speed car...

then again do what you will...

my first car was a purple/blue 98 chevrelet metro...(go ahead folks laugh it up..lol) it took more torque to tighthen the lug nuts than the engine made... all 1.3L of...lol

I got rid of it after about 3 years of driving it.. Lord knows i had fun in that car... broke in the back seat of that thing...hahahaaa


my second car that i got was no upgrade, unless you consider a 2001 Ford Focus ZX3 to be an upgrade... lol By the way I still have that awesome 2door and I think I got about 3 tickets in that thing...all from long 1500 mile travels, and this was from being 20 yrs of age to 25 years of age. That car is paid in full, and its my hobby/guinea pig car...i learned a lot from that "dummy." lol

2007 rolls around, age 25 I buy my 2008 Speed3... all those years of driving and I own one car, and now I have two... well 3 if you want to get technical...the wife drives the 05 MZ3.. but still you get the point... I learned a lot from driving E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E...

in the end, you will get what you want, and I'm not going to persuade you either way. What ever you decide, fave fun and be safe... oh; and don't drink and drive...

to answer your question, I don't know personally how the Challenger would compare to a Speed3...hell I didn't even know they were out till 2 days ago..lmao


good luck man

 

[Kaidao]

Haha thanks for all the replies. It seems everyone is advising to get a slower car...but the SRT8 really wasn't an option in the beginning. And...dammit, I just want the speed3. I guess it's really not my "first" car..it's just..the first car that I owned. I live in Taiwan and the driving age is 18. I'm 18 now, but I've been driving since 15 cause my parents weren't around to drive me to school. And it's damn far away. I drove a Lexus RX330 for the three years...and if any of you been to Taiwan, the streets are incredibly...small. That plus about three dozen scooters zooming around you at any given time, it makes for quite difficult driving conditions.

But anyways...I'm sorry for all of you who suggested a slower car. And maybe one day I'll end up saying sorry to myself. But I want the speed3. And I've worked at some sh*t jobs..literally, i had to clean it...and saved, to be able to convince my parents to get me this car. I'm not changing my mind.

 

[jnr5005]

I saw a new Challenger run a 14.1 at Cecil Dragway in Maryland this past Wednesday. Slower than I expected, but I was much slower than expected with a 14.65 in my 08 MS3. I blame wheel hop...or a combination of things I'm doing wrong. But the Challenger was SICK!