ZBlue Bullet
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Ive been doing some research and was wondering if there is now any company that makes forged rods that will work with oem pistons in the fs-de engine?
2003 MSP Forged Rods OEM Pistons
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ZBlue Bullet
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I kind of figured if i took the rods and pistons to a machine shop they would be able to do it, so the taper on the oem rods dosnt matter when you buy the forged rods for matting them up to the oem pistons? Have you done this yourself?
dirtysouth_msp
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Stock style wrist pins are garbage. If you are getting that deep into the motor, might as well change rods and pistons with free floating style wrist pins instead of the stock pressed style. If using the stock pistons means using stock style wrist pins, I would not go that way. I had a wrist pin fail on my stock motor.
ZBlue Bullet
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where would i find floating wrist pins for the oem pistons
protege3690
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bro, honestly better safe than sorry. IMO fork out the money for the forged pistons as well than having to machine your stock pistons to fit the forged rods. AND thats if you dont have to bored out the block. easier just to get overbored pistons and rebuild the engine. again this is all my honest opinion especially if youre already into the engine so deep.
Perro del Sol
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There is no way to do this on "the cheap"! Do it right the first time or don't bother and buy another motor, you'll need it.
hornsfan10609
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You will save money spending an extra $3-400 on pistons now vs. rebuilding it again in a few months and having to buy them anyway after it blows up.
mazda_sp20
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Forgies are noisy, especially my arias with tight piston to bore clearance.
If I would do it again, I would do forged rods with brand new genuine pistons
If I would do it again, I would do forged rods with brand new genuine pistons
dirtysouth_msp
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IDK, my Wiseco's are not that noisy.
protege3690
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only a bit noisey when starting up. a little bit of piston slap. but once it warms up after a 1-3 minutes. of running quiets down to normal.
not meaning to thread jack but i am looking at buying the set of forged pistons and forged rods from protegegarage. i know many people have had a lot of problems with him, as have i.. but i was curious if anyone has bought them from him? is it safe? lol
hornsfan10609
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There are so many other vendors to choose from, don't waste your time with PG
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So, your complaint is that the pistons are noisy...
You're negating all the benefits of a forged piston because they are noisy...
My Wiseco's are definitely louder than OEM, but they're a hell of a lot quieter than the noise that will come from the engine when an OEM piston grenades itself in the combustion chamber...
Though the Olivers look sleamer than k1 I have to say that the area on the Oliver's that attach to the crank is better designed.I have CP Pistons with Oliver Rods, and they are as quiet as stock.
Rods: Oliver vs Stock vs K1:
