2003 Mazda 6s camber kit

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I just intalled 19's on my car and I want to drop it so I could get it lookin just right. But a friend of mine said it would be wise to get a camber kit for it so that the inside of my wheels don't wear. Does anyone have any indepth info about this, and if i do need to get a camber kit does anyone know where i can get one?
 
I think if you drop it and do alignment afterwards, the shop will tell you whether or not you need a camber kit. Though, I could be wrong, I think I read that somewhere or someone told me.
 
A friend of mine lower his RSX on 18 inch Racing Harts, and was told before they would even align it he needed to purchase a chamber kit. They run about $200. But then again this is just what he was told
 
this sounds like a 6 tech dicussion....4real
 
You may not even need a camber kit, some cars from the factory will allow enough adjustment. I believe you can do this with mazda.
 
I dont know dave, from what I remember reading before I got my eibachs is that you really wont need one unless you go with a major drop
 
After installing a set of Eibachs on Timba's car this weekend there is sufficent adjustment in the rear for adjustment if required. As for the front there really is no way to use traditional camber adjustment kits. Perhaps a set of Ground Control plates for the front. Has anyone had there car aligned yet with springs?
 
I will be getting mine aligned after the srpings fully settle so I will let you know what they say dave
 
I think the 6 autocrossers would literarly sell their first borns for a front camber adjustment kit.

Then you could increase the rear camber slightly (take it to negative -0.5 instead of -1.0 or whatever it is standard) and bump the front to -1.0 to -1.5. Screw tire wear, we want grip damn it!

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Camber Kit

Is there any vibration, or anything else besides tire wear to worry about when installing lowering springs?
 
Because you are changing how the suspension travels, and the spring rate....

1) You can get a semi-bouncy feel when driving aggressively. (As the stock shocks can't keep up with the aftermarket springs).

2) You will wear your stock shocks out faster then if you were running stock springs. Wear increases as the drop increases. (Aka racing beats 1.0 drop shouldn't effect longevity much, but sprint's 1.8 drop could require new shocks in 30-40k)

Solutions to problem 1 and 2 are getting aftermarket shocks, or high end coil overs (like kw's).

Additional effects from heavier wheels (if the 19's are heavier then stock) include...

a) Increased braking distance
b) Reduced handling
c) Reduced acceleration
d) Increased brake pad and rotor wear
e) Increased suspension wear
f) Increased bushing wear

If the larger diameter wheels weigh exactly the same as stock, they will still have the effects of above (but to a lesser extent), due to the mass of the wheel being further out on the edge (physics).

Going to lighter and smaller wheels has the exact opposite effect.
 
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Here's an excellent quote on larger diameter wheels, and their effects on a car's performance.

More interesting, I think is that going up a wheel size (even if it's the SAME weight) increases rotational inertia 7-8%, the same as adding ~1.5lbs per wheel or ~12lbs total equiv chassis weight. Again, that's assuming the exact same wheel weight, just a different size. The bigger your wheels, the more that weight hurts. For fun, figure out what a 19x8" wheel (forged 19's come in around 27lbs) would do compared to a 17x8 (forged comes in around 14lbs).

I'll save ya the trouble- it's like adding 10% (over 300lbs) of weight to the chassis. Ouch!

For more fun, let's assume somebody has a Mazda Miata with the factory 14" wheels weighing 10.4lbs. Yes, those are the factory wheels from the mid-late 90's. Joe Somebody removes them and fits 18's. Of course, they're chromed, which adds even more weight. Wheel weight is now a whopping 30lbs per wheel, not uncommon for chrome wheels. The tires only weigh marginally less on the larger wheel. The equivalent static chassis weight is roughly 600lbs, more than 25% of the car's curb weight. Imagine your new tire combination adding 2 whole seconds to your 0-60 time- you're now as fast as the Toyota Prius. Wow. Your car feels like a 3000lb family sedan. No wonder Miata guys are finatical about keeping small, light wheels on their cars. Recent Miatas have come with heavy 17" wheels, and the owners swap them out for lighter 15's.
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http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopic.php?t=563&start=0

I'm just pointing out the sacrifices one makes when jumping to a plus size wheel. Of course the main benefit is how much cooler the car tends to look :).
 
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ashutoshsm said:
I wish all the R*cers who cut their springs and 'roll' on 19s knew all that :)
Wish the Suv guys who got 24 chrome spinners trying to get out the driveway in 4wd durring december knew that....know a few and keep replacing steering pump as well.
 
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