1999 Corvette vs 2000 S2000

[AGR]

re: Other stuff;

Who cares which Cobra is faster than whatever - that's not the topic of discussion.


See, some of you just can't fathom that a slower car can be 'more fun' to drive.

I own a 12-second-power Probe GT.
I drive a 16 second Miata 99.6% of the time.

The Miata is simply more fun. It's hard to explain, unless you drive them.

Well said! Speed isn't everything. I love my MAZDASPEED with just a little added boost. It's all I need.

As an aficionado of Cobras, I will always mention them when the topic involves a Vette (lol)

 

[mikeyb]

Well how about a 02 BMW M Roadster with a 6spd tranny and 315hp???

 

[Darin]

Well how about a 02 BMW M Roadster with a 6spd tranny and 315hp???

Notice that my choices were hovering around the $20,000 price?

 

[mikeyb]

In my part of NH Vettes are dime a dozen. I atleast see 10 a day. Every Chevrolet dealer has 6 to 8 on their lots. People are buying vettes because their the best bang for the buck now that the Camaro and Trans Am are going. Besides the SRT-4, STI, and the EVO. What other new car can you get for the same price as a new Vette and get the some performance?

 

[mikeyb]

Notice that my choices were hovering around the $20,000 price?

The ones I've seen around here for sale are hovering between 25k and 35k. But its a very fast little car. As for the S2000 they are holding their value in my area. Used prices are between 28k and 32k. My Dad is currently looking for a roadster and he's torn between a new S2000 and a used M Roadster.

 

[FC3s Boy]

Notice that my choices were hovering around the $20,000 price?

with the 20,000 you could get a nice FD rx7 with some mods.

 

[Darin]

with the 20,000 you could get a nice FD rx7 with some mods.

(puke)

It'd be expensive enough to maintain the S2K or the C5 - an FD w/ Mods = More time at the shop than the track.


I love FD's...but I'd have to have a LOT of money to make it as fast and reliable as a stock Corvette.

 

[LinuxRacr]

Where's our boi Revsto9K at?

 

[Allen]

I don't know where you get the idea that the S2K looks gay ...

WOW.... (hitit)

 

[FC3s Boy]

(puke)

It'd be expensive enough to maintain the S2K or the C5 - an FD w/ Mods = More time at the shop than the track.


I love FD's...but I'd have to have a LOT of money to make it as fast and reliable as a stock Corvette.

we have a 93 r1 we got for $12,000 66,000 miles on the clock,
DP , Intake, Exhaust and a Knight sports ECU it runs a 1/8 mile time of 8.8 at stock boost. It's daily driven by our tech's wife 80-90 miles a day. If you do the reg. maint. on them the can be a great running car.

 

[Darin]

we have a 93 r1 we got for $12,000 66,000 miles on the clock,
DP , Intake, Exhaust and a Knight sports ECU it runs a 1/8 mile time of 8.8 at stock boost. It's daily driven by our tech's wife 80-90 miles a day. If you do the reg. maint. on them the can be a great running car.

I don't know if I'd put $12k into a car which runs 9 second 1/8ths... :-/ I am trying to SELL a car which runs 8.4 1/8ths, but nobody will gimme $5K for it

hehe...But that FD sounds good, however. I'm plenty far away from buying (a year?), but just tossing around some options.

:beer:

 

[RevsTo9K]

The Sc would not be covered by $5K. YOu have to do alot more the just add a SC to get the car to handle that power.

I'll take a vette C5 reliability over a SC S2K whcih blows rods stock any day!

Wow, you have posted not one, but two completely wrong statements.

1) You can buy a complete Comptech supercharger kit including the Apexi Vafc to control the fuel for less than $4500.

2) There are no problems with the S2000's stock forged rods. There have been some S2000's, (I can count them on both of my hands), that have had scored cylinder walls because of an oil squirter going bad, but this only involved the model year 2000's. The problem was fixed after that. And these were VERY few and far between. There has only been ONE stock S2000 that I have ever even heard of breaking a connecting rod.

So, from you previous statement, have you done so much research in S2000's that you know more about them than me, someone who owns one?

I think not.

Now back on topic:

If you found a 1999 C5 for $23,000, you would be crazy to even consider the S2000. Let's see, a near 400hp car, that's rear wheel drive, and weighs in at close to only 2500lbs. Why would you even consider anything else?

And to all of you that are bashing the S2000, you are just stupid. Have some more hateraide. I just love thoughtless comments, it keeps me from having to even try to make you look stupid. You do good enough jobs of it yourselves.


Thank you Patrick for pointing out this thread to me so I could see how stupid these haters are.

 

[Darin]

Wow, you have posted not one, but two completely wrong statements.

1) You can buy a complete Comptech supercharger kit including the Apexi Vafc to control the fuel for less than $4500.

2) There are no problems with the S2000's stock forged rods. There have been some S2000's, (I can count them on both of my hands), that have had scored cylinder walls because of an oil squirter going bad, but this only involved the model year 2000's. The problem was fixed after that. And these were VERY few and far between. There has only been ONE stock S2000 that I have ever even heard of breaking a connecting rod.

So, from you previous statement, have you done so much research in S2000's that you know more about them than me, someone who owns one?

I think not.

Now back on topic:

If you found a 1999 C5 for $23,000, you would be crazy to even consider the S2000. Let's see, a near 400hp car, that's rear wheel drive, and weighs in at close to only 2500lbs. Why would you even consider anything else?

And to all of you that are bashing the S2000, you are just stupid. Have some more hateraide. I just love thoughtless comments, it keeps me from having to even try to make you look stupid. You do good enough jobs of it yourselves.


Thank you Patrick for pointing out this thread to me so I could see how stupid these haters are.

Jeesh dude - freakin RELAX...Gawd, you'd think they were talking about your MOM or something.

 

[EXA4DRIVER]

I'd rather have an S2K than a Protege

 

[LinuxRacr]

What about the possibilities of building the engine (S2000) for 500+ HP? C'mon man!

 

[1sty]

Wow, you have posted not one, but two completely wrong statements.

1) You can buy a complete Comptech supercharger kit including the Apexi Vafc to control the fuel for less than $4500.

2) There are no problems with the S2000's stock forged rods. There have been some S2000's, (I can count them on both of my hands), that have had scored cylinder walls because of an oil squirter going bad, but this only involved the model year 2000's. The problem was fixed after that. And these were VERY few and far between. There has only been ONE stock S2000 that I have ever even heard of breaking a connecting rod.

So, from you previous statement, have you done so much research in S2000's that you know more about them than me, someone who owns one?

I think not.

Now back on topic:

If you found a 1999 C5 for $23,000, you would be crazy to even consider the S2000. Let's see, a near 400hp car, that's rear wheel drive, and weighs in at close to only 2500lbs. Why would you even consider anything else?

And to all of you that are bashing the S2000, you are just stupid. Have some more hateraide. I just love thoughtless comments, it keeps me from having to even try to make you look stupid. You do good enough jobs of it yourselves.


Thank you Patrick for pointing out this thread to me so I could see how stupid these haters are.

DOes that kit come with a clutch, exhuast, knock sensors, wideband o2 and generaly everything else that goes along with serouisly altering a cars perfomance?

By the time you are done paying for the damn kit and all the supporting hardware you have long waved by-by to $5K not to mention the install labor or the time to put the damn equipment on the car. Also consider the time for tweaking an tuning not to mention the added hassle of developed leaks 3 months later.

For the Vette you walk in hand them a check and drive the **** home with a fully functional car. No need to call comptech and install a damn thing.

I know of 3 S2000s with brocken rods. I have a very common customer that is a honda tech. Hes mentioned 3 seperate examples of the same thing. the amazing part is one guy was actuayl able to drive the damn car to the dealership with one. Now thats a tuff engine block!

 

[redwagon02]

Vette! I love torque.

 

[AGR]

What about the possibilities of building the engine (S2000) for 500+ HP? C'mon man!

you will poke your eye out!!! (peep)

 

[big_ben]

What about the possibilities of building the engine (S2000) for 500+ HP? C'mon man!

Yeah, it's doable, but I'd still rather have the vette any day of the week. A 500hp 4 cylinder just isn't reliable at all. You will have it in the shop more than you drive it. I'd rather enjoy a vette that's out of the shop more than it's in it.

DOes that kit come with a clutch,

Dont need one, the stock is PLENTY grippy enough. You may have forgotten, the S2000 is pretty much a streetable race car.

exhuast,

Don't need it, the S2000's exhaust is one of the most freeflowing OEM exhausts that is out. This is why you can pay $1000+ for an after market and only gain like 2hp, which can be attributed to dyno error.

knock sensors

Already has them.

wideband o2

Don't need it unless you go with a smaller pulley for more boost.

generaly everything else that goes along with serouisly altering a cars perfomance?

No, as long as you stay at the 6psi that the kit comes at, you should get around 100,000miles or more with regular prescribed maintenance.

By the time you are done paying for the damn kit and all the supporting hardware you have long waved by-by to $5K

I think I've proved this wrong well enough.

not to mention the install labor or the time to put the damn equipment on the car.

It's just a supercharger, you aren't rebuilding a motor here. It's not that hard, a day and a half of work at most.

Also consider the time for tweaking an tuning not to mention the added hassle of developed leaks 3 months later.

There are LOTS of Vafc preset charts already available to get a decent temporary tune until you can get to a dyno to fine tune it. The Comptech kit has been out for 4 years now, there aren't any problems that haven't been worked out already.

For the Vette you walk in hand them a check and drive the **** home with a fully functional car. No need to call comptech and install a damn thing.

You are arguing my point here, I've already said I'd choose the Vette over the S2000 any day of the week. Did you not read that far?

I know of 3 S2000s with brocken rods. I have a very common customer that is a honda tech. Hes mentioned 3 seperate examples of the same thing.

Maybe, but I've only heard of one. Even still, 3 out of thousands of cars, that's not that many.

the amazing part is one guy was actuayl able to drive the damn car to the dealership with one. Now thats a tuff engine block!

Fiber Reinforced Cylinder Walls.

 

[AGR]

Jesus!!!! Let's make it BUSY BEN!!!!!! (rofl)